Apple Watch Series 3 With Built-In Cellular Means Standalone Smartwatch

Apple Watch Series 3 With Built-In Cellular Means Standalone Smartwatch

Apple Watch Series 3 With Built-In Cellular Means Standalone Smartwatch Watch Releases

It is that time of the year again, the time to gather around and learn what technological nirvana Apple will bestow upon us. The annual Apple keynote event is where the major new Apple products and updates of the year are unveiled, and this year's big announcement related to the Apple Watch is that it will feature cellular data connectivity. The 2017 keynote event marks the 10th anniversary of the iPhone's launch, and the new iPhones have much of the general tech consumers’ attention. We are here as watch enthusiasts, however, to talk about the new Apple Watch Series 3 with cellular and what it means for Apple, smartwatches, and you.

Apple Watch Series 3 With Built-In Cellular Means Standalone Smartwatch Watch Releases

The Basics

As noted, cellular connectivity is the major news for the Apple Watch. It is a big deal because it means one can use cellular data including internet and phone calls on the watch without it being paired to a phone. People can no longer call it just an accessory for the iPhone, as it is now capable of acting as a standalone device. The look of the Apple Watch is largely unchanged, but a red dot on the "Digital Crown" will be polarizing – though the Apple Watch was arguably in need of a little edginess. Last year, Apple CEO Tim Cook told us that Apple was the number-two watch brand in the world, and it has apparently overtaken Rolex to become the number-one selling watch in the world – we would like to see the exact figures they are referring to for ourselves.

Apple Watch Series 3 With Built-In Cellular Means Standalone Smartwatch Watch Releases

A Standalone Smartwatch

The ostensible convenience of merely not having to reach for the smartphone in one’s pocket or purse that smartwatches have been said to offer has understandably not convinced everyone. With cellular data available directly on the Apple Watch itself, one could theoretically not carry a phone at all and yet remain as connected as ever. While not the first smartwatch to offer mobile connectivity, it represents a big step forward for the Apple Watch in terms of how it will be used and viewed.

Apple Watch Series 3 With Built-In Cellular Means Standalone Smartwatch Watch Releases

Ever since the launch of the first Apple Watch in 2014, we have noted that it has been held back by its reliance on a phone and that being freed from this restriction was the only way toward realizing its full potential. The Apple Watch previously relied on a connection to an iPhone for a number of applications. Apple has added features such as WiFi, Bluetooth, and GPS to allow some iPhone-free activities using the Apple Watch - and the new Series 3 will, of course, also have those and other tech previously available - but there was never a point at which it seemed capable of true independence. There have been talk and rumors for some time (as well as a leak ahead of Apple’s announcement) about the Apple Watch’s eventual cellular connectivity, but Apple has moved pretty quickly in bringing the Apple Watch to this level.

Apple Watch Series 3 With Built-In Cellular Means Standalone Smartwatch Watch Releases

Apple Watch Series 3 With Built-In Cellular Means Standalone Smartwatch Watch Releases

That said, even with mobile connectivity the Apple Watch will, of course, not be able to replicate every feature of an iPhone – yet. You’ll still need a phone for a range of things we are accustomed to having at our fingertips, such as the ability to take video and photographs on the fly. Apple promises 40 million songs on your wrist with Apple Music and AirPods. It's not as if people will be ditching their phones, but the ability to use the Apple watch independently increases its value.

Apple Watch Series 3 With Built-In Cellular Means Standalone Smartwatch Watch Releases

With a 70% faster dual-core processor, the Apple Watch will be equipped with a W2 chip that we are told will offer "85% faster WiFi" and be "50% more power-efficient." You will be able to connect to a cellular network just like with mobile phones and it should be pretty smooth and fast (depending on your signal strength). Also, the watch switches seamlessly to cellular when it is away from an iPhone. Different plans will, of course, vary according to region and carrier and probably add a bit to your bill. Apple says they have deals set up with a number of carriers around the world.

Apple Watch Series 3 With Built-In Cellular Means Standalone Smartwatch Watch Releases

Does all this mean phone calls from your wrist like a secret agent? Well, yes, as the Apple Watch Series 3 is equipped with speakers and a microphone. You could also use something like Apple's wireless earphones (with microphone) called AirPods to make calls via the Apple Watch – hands-free, phone-free, and a bit more discreetly. I must say that the idea of a future where my pockets are liberated of a wallet (e.g., ApplePay), phone, and keys is enticing.

Apple Watch Series 3 With Built-In Cellular Means Standalone Smartwatch Watch Releases

New Apple Watch Series 3 Hardware, Software, & Specs

The basic look of the Apple Watch is largely unchanged. It is still available in 38mm and 42mm sizes – remember that these are vertical lengths, which give a much better idea of how it will fit one's wrist than the width measurements traditional watches tend to use. With antennas, radios, power amplifiers, and an eSIM that is over one-hundredth the size of a traditional SIM card, it is remarkable that Apple has been able keep the thickness of the Apple Watch Series 3 essentially unchanged from past versions and battery life at "all day" (I believe 18 hours) – with the all-important caveat that "battery life varies by use and configuration." Also noteworthy is the fact that Apple managed to integrate an antenna design capable of serving as both a transmitting and receiving element for LTE and UMTS right into the display itself – a considerable achievement that also keeps thickness to a minimum.

Apple Watch Series 3 With Built-In Cellular Means Standalone Smartwatch Watch Releases

The main visual changes in the Apple Watch Series 3 over the previous versions are the new styles available and of course the sporty red dot on the crown. It seems like people will be talking about this design choice a lot. We have come to expect a high-end model for each Apple Watch release, as Apple covers all its bases, attempting to offer options for every lifestyle and budget. The first Apple Watch release included the 18k gold Apple Watch Edition (reviewed here) for as much as $17,000, and the Apple Watch Series 2 Edition was white ceramic. Now, with the Apple Watch Series 3 is a luxury-level model in gray ceramic.

Apple Watch Series 3 With Built-In Cellular Means Standalone Smartwatch Watch Releases

Apple has partnered with the likes of Nike, Nintendo, Disney, Hermes (hands-on with the Hermes editions here), and others over the years to offer exclusive versions, features, or special editions. For the Apple Watch Series 3, there is a new Sport Loop, new colors for the Nike+ edition, and Hermes leather bands and watch faces. Nothing groundbreaking, but the Apple Watch needs as much customizability and personalization as possible.

Apple Watch Series 3 With Built-In Cellular Means Standalone Smartwatch Watch Releases

Between the different materials, colors, and strap options, Apple has done their best to give people the ability to express their personal style – of course, it will always look like an Apple Watch. The "bands," as Apple calls them, from previous generation Apple Watches will fit the Apple Watch Series 3, it seems, and there will be new styles for a range of different uses and scenarios. The easy strap changing system means one can change the look and feel of the Apple Watch for different occasions – we reviewed and compared Apple Watch bands and bracelets here.

Apple Watch Series 3 With Built-In Cellular Means Standalone Smartwatch Watch Releases

The Apple Watch Series 3 will come with WatchOS 4 announced at the WWDC 2017 in June, which brought Siri, new watch faces, and other features.

As for an always-on state setting in order for the Apple Watch not to look like a lifeless black slab on the wrist, it seems that battery life remains the priority. Similarly, although Apple offers its own watch faces, allowing third-party watch faces – like the 30,000+ available from the Facer platform for Android and Tizen – is also not in the cards for this release. An always-on watch face state and more watch face options are both features we have felt are lacking from the Apple Watch since its debut and that we still hope to see.

Apple Watch Series 3 With Built-In Cellular Means Standalone Smartwatch Watch Releases

Fitness applications have become central to convincing consumers of what smartwatches can do for them. In addition to the features introduced in WatchOS 4 such as GymKit, Apple is making greater use of its heart-rate sensor, which it says is the most used heart rate monitor in the world. New displays for heart rate on the main watch faces will be added along with greater ability to track things like resting heart rate and recovery heart rate. Medical uses such as detecting abnormal heart rate or rhythm are other interesting features being added along with something they are calling Apple Heart Study.

Apple Watch Series 3 With Built-In Cellular Means Standalone Smartwatch Watch Releases

Pricing & Availability

Orders for the Apple Watch Series 3 start September 15, 2017, and it will hit Apple Stores September 22 – we can all picture the scene. Price for the Apple Watch Series 3 with GPS starts at $329 while the GPS + Cellular version starts at $399. The new Edition models in gray or white ceramic start at $1,299, Apple Watch Hermès versions start at $1,149, and you can still get the Apple Watch Series 1 at a new starting price of $249. Stay tuned for a hands-on look at the Apple Watch Series 3 coming up soon. apple.com/watch

What do you think?
  • I want it! (30)
  • Interesting (25)
  • Thumbs up (6)
  • I love it! (3)
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  • “Swimproof?” What does that mean? 5M? 30M? That’s as big an innovation as cellular connectivity.

    • Sheez Gagoo

      5ATM = 50M

      • Right. My question was is it swimproof to five meters, thirty meters (not atmospheres)…what? And yes, WR ratings are not exactly standardized across the industry (with the exception of ISO 6240), but if you tell me a watch has 30M of WR I’m pretty sure I can shower or swim in it. “Swimproof” is pretty vague, and I was hoping to quantify that.

        • Sheez Gagoo

          Swim and dive (no oxigenbottles, freestyle) as much as yyou want.

          • the #watchnerd

            Apple Watch Series 3 has a water resistance rating of 50 meters under ISO standard 22810:2010. This means that it may be used for shallow-water activities like swimming in a pool or ocean. However, Apple Watch Series 3 should not be used for scuba diving, waterskiing or other activities involving high-velocity water or submersion below shallow depth. Stainless steel and leather bands are not water resistant.

          • Elijs Dima (@x2eliah)

            Stainless steel bands are not water resistant?

            waaait hang on that doesn’t sound right?

        • egznyc

          Weirdly enough, 30m WR means you should NOT dive or even swim with it.

        • Sheez Gagoo

          5ATM = 50Meters. I wouldn`t go swimming with a 30 meter waterresistant watch, except it`s a Casio. 30 meters is for handwashing and some rain.

        • the #watchnerd

          There’s been a WR ISO for years: 22810.

    • Elijs Dima (@x2eliah)

      Pffft, yeah, as if the pressure-resistance numbers on regular watches are any more informative to every-day life.. (Only take this down to 50 meters depth!! But not for diving or showering! Also brands X Y and Z you can’t really trust but then a casio with only 30m has been taken to dives so there 30m is really more like 40m — etc. etc..)

      Real talk: I don’t care how many meters my watch has. Here’s what I care about: 1) Do I need to worry about it getting wet? No? Good. 2) Can I keep it on if I go to a beach, a pool? Yes? Good. That’s all I need to know. Not like these atm/m WR ratings are enforced anyway…

  • Elijs Dima (@x2eliah)

    The wireless charging support is, imo, the big “sleeper hit” improvement that this watch needed. (Plus that charging pad they showed, for phone/watch/headphones at once)

    Back when I tried an android smartwatch, habing to plug it in was the biggest problem. If applewatch lets me just drop it on a table somewhere overnight, that’s seriously good.

    • fer

      What do you mean? It already charges without having to plug in. It’s contact charging.

      • Elijs Dima (@x2eliah)

        But it’s on a small dock, right? I just want to toss it anywhere on a table or shelf and have it do its thing.

        • fer

          Currently it charges on a puck. You won’t be able to just drop it anywhere on the table, the back still has to make contact with the charger.

          • Elijs Dima (@x2eliah)

            Ah, thanks for the info. That’s a bit disappointing, feels limited…

          • IG

            Try to toss it from closer than 10 yards, will be easier.

  • fer

    I don’t like the red on the crown, I don’t get it. Any word on how much carriers will charge?

  • Word Merchant

    A very courageous and game-changing design. That red splodge on the crown – the digital crown no less – has ushered in a whole new horological school of aesthetics. Tim Cook is beyond brave. I barely recognised this as an Apple Watch at all, to be honest, as my mind struggled to process the eldritch forms in front of me. The miasma of images nearly drove me mad with joy. Think Different. Design Different. Be Different.

    I know there will be people who just don’t get it – I call them ‘Clunkers’. They won’t understand the the future has arrived so quickly in the present, that it’s overshot a bit into the past, so has to bounce back a bit more to be in the future again. They’ll write about ‘soul’ and ‘wrist computers’ and ‘lack of craftsmenship’. Well, let them write their hateful words. Then turn away and stare into the sun. The future sun. The Apple sun. The only Rays you’ll ever need.

    The Apple © Watch © 3 © – like a Sexy Square Pie Right On Your Wrist ®

  • shiiiter

    • Andrew Njoo

      ahahah

  • “it has apparently overtaken Rolex to become the number-one selling watch in the world.”

    I don’t have sales numbers in front of me, but there’s no way that’s true. Rolex sells more watches than Casio or Seiko?

    • Sheez Gagoo

      No, but the create more revenue.

      • palettj

        Rolex is privately held, no one know their revenue numbers.

        • Sheez Gagoo

          You can indirectly. Every Rolex is COSC certified, and they publish numbers how many watches they certified. And you can ask the retailers how much they sold.

  • BRIAN

    The cellular is a game changer. How do you tell a 20 year old who pays $400 for this that they should spend $8500 on a Rolex? Convincing someone to pay $8k more for something to them that just tells the time and is a show piece.

    If Apple branches off and produces a high end brand with specialized well crafted versions vs just expensive straps they will kill the high end watch market for the 35 and under crowd.

    Think about how many times you have your watch on and you look at your phone for the time. I love watches but it is a reality.

    • Berndt Norten

      Regrettably I think you’re correct

      • Hands90

        I’m 27. I wear a sub.

        • Berndt Norten

          But surely you’re an exception to the rule?

        • Word Merchant

          Good for you. And I mean this without any sarcasm.

        • WINKS

          I’m 16 and I wear a Nautilus 5711P.

          • Dr. Renato Lazarus

            I’m 1 and I wear a Twistiti because my Greubel Forsey’s in the shop.

    • Word Merchant

      Agreed. But I think once those 20 and 30-somethings reach their inconceivable 50s, a small proportion will move back to mechanical watches. But today’s mechanical watch is very much in danger of becoming as relevant as a pocket watch.

      A lot of people are ditching their FitBit things and buying an Apple Watch, so Apple is getting at least two distinct streams of sales at present.
      I expect the folk at FitBit are quite worried now…

      • fer

        I don’t think so. I’d say at least 95% of my friends, we’re 27-32, don’t wear mechanicals and don’t plan on wearing them. Why? I think it’s because most of their dads never wore them. And in my brother’s friends, mid twenties, I have never seen anyone wear a mechanical. The only one who cares about watches is me and I prefer quartz, and a friend of mine who likes Rolex. Everyone else who does wear a watch it’s a smartwatch or a cheap digital watch.

        • Word Merchant

          Out of interest, why are you commenting here at all? This seems entirely the wrong place for you.

          • fer

            How so? I wrote “The only one who cares about watches is me . . . “

          • Word Merchant

            …and you followed it with “and I prefer quartz”.

          • IG

            I hate quartz and proud of it.™

          • fer

            Preferring quartz doesn’t mean I dislike reading about all types of watches and they review quartz watches here.

          • Dr. Renato Lazarus

            He comes ’round for the Apple harvests.

    • WolverBilly

      “Game changer.” Man, children of marketing are everywhere. As for me, I never tell a 20-year-old to buy anything they can’t afford. But if they can afford it, the Rolex doesn’t need to be wound as long as you wear it, doesn’t need to be plugged in every night, doesn’t require a monthly paid subscription to be “useful,” and if you keep it ten years it will still work just fine at telling the time (and date if equipped) and most likely be worth more than what you paid for it. It won’t make rude noises, make you a slave to the screen and look like you’ve strapped on a dead Casio, either. I live in a college town in the NE and pretty much never see Apple Watches. Kids seem to be addicted to their phones and that’s not going to change, what with a postage-sized screen on yet another $$ device that requires another monthly feeding. You see, the Apple “watch” isn’t a watch, it’s a really tiny wrist computer. To compare it cost-wise to a mechanical watch is idiotic. But then, these are idiotic times. I’m an idiot for commenting on another piece on this hideous blog. I had time to waste, and man. I came through like a champ.

      • Berndt Norten

        Words of wisdom

      • Phil leavell

        very astute and came up with a great estimation of the product. A product that will truly suck the life out of you but I think before it does that you’ll probably get hit by a car cuz you’re paying attention to your watch and not what you’re supposed to be doing

        • Berndt Norten

          April is the cruellest month
          Breeding wrist turds out of the
          No man’s land of blogworld

      • egznyc

        I live in a college town in the NE too but curiously I see quite a few Apple Watches on people’s wrists.

        Personally, if this thing can function as a decent gps watch for my runs etc. AND if it can get wet and hell also make calls texts and surf the net, that is a pretty useful device for when I want a gps watch. The rest of the time I’d stick with my smart phone and mechanical wristwatch.

    • Mountainous Man

      I’m buying one. I’ve already sold all of my Rolex watches, and I’m down to a single Omega. Mechanical watches are a fun past time, but I never liked the “status” element of it, and now the Apple Watch is useful enough to come out ahead in the competition for my wrist real estate. I did buy the first Apple Watch, and it didn’t quite stick for me, but it was already close. Untethering from the iPhone is a big step.

      FWIW, out here on the West Coast, Apple Watches are very common, and see them on everyone from kids, to baristas, to metal music musicians, to soccer moms to grandpas. Once the health tracking becomes more advanced over the next several years, I’m sure they’ll be ubiquitous everywhere.

      • Raymond Wilkie

        I hope for the sake of humanity you’r wrong.

      • IG

        Baristas, metal music musicians, soccer moms – you covered the West Coast very well.

    • IG

      Still doesn’t change the game of the microscopic screen. Until direct neural connection or some kind of projection of bigger screen you still need another device for text, video, games.

  • 200 Fathoms

    Can one be too connected?

  • palettj

    Breaking news!!! Ford sell more cars than Porsche!!!!!

    • Dave Pryor

      LoL

  • Berndt Norten

    A red dot. Think about that. A KRAVITZ red dot. What on earth were they thinking? Who did they consult on that? A red dot. What other wristwatch does that? A red dot. The mind boggles. Somebody stop me from going KRAVITZ. ,!!!!!!!

    • Sheez Gagoo

      The guys from the red dot award?

    • Sheez Gagoo
      • Berndt Norten

        Is it a dot or a gemstone?

        • Elijs Dima (@x2eliah)

          Is there really a difference? A dot is a dot, regardless of what material makes the dot.

          • SuperStrapper

            A dot is a dot, a cabochon is a cabochon.

          • Berndt Norten

            I find a gemstone to be less aesthetically distasteful

        • Sheez Gagoo

          Gemstone. A rubin.

          • Berndt Norten

            Well isn’t that less vulgar than a painted dot?

          • Sheez Gagoo

            Hmmmm….no.

          • Berndt Norten

            We can agree to disagree

          • Sheez Gagoo

            Ok

  • Ross Diljohn

    The people that wear these things are the same people that quote Taylor Swift and get tattoos of Marilyn Monroe on their ass.

    • fer

      haters gonna hate

    • Sheez Gagoo

      Not really. I was stunned to see, that in particular here, most people wearing connected devices are quite old.

  • Phil leavell

    One would surmise but Red Dot is to signify apple red apple the only apples I buy or to eat with my lunch or to make pies with .

  • Phil leavell

    The red on the crown probably to signify apple red apple. The only Apple I buy is to eat then digest and crap out. So why would I buy a piece of crap to put on my wrist . I like to wear a watch on my wrist

    • Berndt Norten

      Of course! Red. For Apple. Another stroke of design genius

      • Phil leavell

        Hey I had to come up with something nice and positive about the ? 😉

      • Phil leavell

        Can’t always be a hater

    • On the other blog someone said it was because Jobs was a Leica fan, and also the British Red Dot Award.

      • Phil leavell

        Thank you it was a carry over game. I’M not a Leica fun cheers yo yo yo

  • Ranchracer

    Sorry, did my snoring wake you?

  • egznyc

    This would be a nice option on those occasions when I’m going on run and want all sorts of data – like how far and fast I’m going – and don’t want to take along my phone (the added weight and bulk isn’t helpful), but wouldn’t mind staying connected. Sure, sometimes if rather not be connected, but in any event for the other 95% of my life I’d prefer a regular smart phone and mechanical watch. But there’s still the problem of battery life for the rest of the population of potential buyers.

  • Yan Fin
    • Sheez Gagoo

      In 1998 I hd the pleasure to work for a huge watch company. A major plastic brand was developping a phone watch at the time and I could test it. It never came to market. It was huge, not waterresistant and it was impossible to make a call without anyone around listening.

  • commentator bob

    The red dot crown is as tacky of a status indicator as the red bottom Christian Louboutin shoes that questionable women wear to warn you of their credit card issues.

    • Elijs Dima (@x2eliah)

      The red dot crown is about as tacky as the gold/steel crown on rolex dials 😛

  • commentator bob

    Still not impressed. But not writing these off either. It will be interesting to see how the SIM version plays out. Two phone contracts? A phone replacement (could work with the bluetooth earbuds with a built in mic)?

    • Kurt Klimisch

      I believe most of the cell companies have a deal to add it to your service for a lot less.

    • fer

      The watch will use your existing phone number. Verizon and AT&T will charge $10 to add to your plan. It won’t completely replace your iPhone, plus you still need an iPhone to set it up, etc.

    • Elijs Dima (@x2eliah)

      Basically they have artificial, built-in SIM chips that you cannot replace, and that the cell network carrier has to ‘bind’ to your regular account/sim number (forwarding etc.).

      So, first off you need to be on a carrier that explicitly supports this service/device.

      • Thanks very much for this information.

  • Kurt Klimisch

    I hate to say but the cellular feature pushes it over the line for me. I have sold my Rolex and 2 Speedmasters in the last year. I am down to my Zenith Striking 10th and a Seiko PADI Solar diver. I am putting the Zenith up for sale and getting the new Apple Watch. I live in Seattle and in this town, having an Apple Watch gets me more “cred” than an expensive mechanical watch. Plus I like the HR, and ABC aspects of the watch. Plus not having to bring my phone when walking the dog is really great.

    • Sheez Gagoo

      What does HR and ABC aspect mean? Human Ressources and proof against the worst weapons mankind developped?

      • Kurt Klimisch

        HR = Heart Rate, ABC = Altimeter, Barometer, and Compass

        • Sheez Gagoo

          Thanks. The question seemed to be stupid, but I really had no idea.

    • SuperStrapper

      If you need ‘cred’ based on something like a watch, I’d recommend making actual friends.

      • Kurt Klimisch

        Well, what I mean is that in the Tech Dominated Seattle market, people always will say something to the people wearing an Apple Watch – those very few of us that wear mechanical watches – no comments – ever. A mechanical watch is just not relavent to the connected younger generation. Not that I care. But I have thought that in an interview it might be better to wear an Apple Watch rather than a mechanical – in the tech world you will seem to be more engaged with the technology. As one of my mentors said, “presentation is everything”. For me, talking to my friends that have connected watches – they have convinced me that the benefits finally might tip the balance. I sense another oncoming “quartz-like” crisis for the mechanical watch market.

        • Phil

          I agree that “presentation is everything”, however for me that is exactly the reason not to wear a smart watch.

          In many areas, turning up with a smart watch sends wrong impression.
          A smart watch shows that you are more interested in gadgets and checking you messages than sartorial elegance. If you are a 25 year old computer programmer, then fine. Not the right impression if you want a responsible management position in a company though.
          It’s like wearing the wrong shoes or a dodgy suit. The fact that you haven’t worked out the dress code means you either don’t care or are too daft. For both reasons you will be shown the door.

          Put it this way, the guy that turns up for an interview wearing a smart watch is not the guy that you will be taking to the corporate day at Wimbledon or Lords. The guy that turns up wearing a decent watch may well be.

          • Kurt Klimisch

            Sorry, but you obviously don’t live in Seattle… The CEO of my company wears pink t-shirts to work everyday so I think I just live in a different universe.

          • WolverBilly

            Anyone who gets judged for a position based on their watch is trying to get a job at a crap company. If they even notice your watch they’re clearly losers. This covers everything even if the job is as a watch salesman. It’s you they are going to hire, not your freakin’ watch. If you’re worried about such things before you go to an interview, you are a pathetic weasel. How many times have you heard, “Well, you are unqualified, lack experience, can’t string two sentences together and forgot to wear pants, but nice watch. You’re hired!”

          • Phil

            Unfortunately in the real world, people judge other people based on how you dress, what car you drive, what accent you have and other social cues.

            I think carefully about what watch I wear for different situations. For example, a customer meeting with high up managers / execs then an expensive watch is ok. In fact you will fit in with what will almost certainly be a room full of Rolex and Omega.
            However, a customer meeting with shop floor people and regular managers it might give the wrong impression to wear an expensive watch.

        • Word Merchant

          Are you a bot?

        • Sheez Gagoo

          This crisis is already here. For quite a while now.

      • Kurt Klimisch

        No worries I have friends. I will say – I work in tech, wearing an Apple Watch or other smart watch shows that one is engaged with the technology. And since I work on platforms that support the IOS platform, having an Apple Watch is almost getting to be a mandatory accessory. Finally, if I was on an interview – projecting an image of being engaged and up on the current technology would be better served by wearing an Apple Watch. As a mentor told me many years ago – “presentation is everything”. I just think it is getting to a tipping point.

        • SuperStrapper

          I work with some pretty noteworthy tech muscle, I’d say maybe half of them wear smart watches, maybe 3/4 of that is apple watch. The other half are bare twisters or traditional watches. When I see someone wearing an apple watch or similar I do not assume they are engaged with technology at that level. Only Because I know several people that are truly engaged with it that don’t wear smart watches. I’m not saying they wear jlcs or rolexes, many of them wear nothing on the wrist.

    • ZL

      Well that is a striking testimonial.

  • Raymond Wilkie

    My hatred for these things knows no bounds.

    • Sheez Gagoo

      You need a girlfriend.

      • Raymond Wilkie

        Do i look straight !

        • Sheez Gagoo

          Does that mean a boyfriend? I woud be stunned…

          • Raymond Wilkie

            Be stunned.

          • Sheez Gagoo

            Ok, no problem. So you need a boyfriend. At least some eaze towards products like this. Nobody is forcing you to like them but you should show some tolerance. You should enjoy the diversity of watch offerings. Smartwatches are here to stay. When you hate them so much you`ll die from a heart attack quite soon.

          • Raymond Wilkie

            I would rather have an RW Smith. Stunning looks and low maintenance.

          • fer

            Apple watch has zero maintenance until it breaks.

          • Raymond Wilkie

            I don’t care what anyone says have zero tolerance for them

          • Sheez Gagoo

            Does it make you feel better? Do you really think that makes you a “real horology afficionado”? Does this ignorance define your identity? To exclude something that doesn`t harm you at all? In this case you need more than a boyfriend.

          • Raymond Wilkie

            I hate peas to, but they don’t harm me.
            ” Does this ignorance define your identity? ”
            I’ve never heard such nonsense.

          • Sheez Gagoo
          • Raymond Wilkie

            I express my opinion on something on here and you post a link saying…. ” Social exclusion is often the effect of a process of discrimination or ‘othering’ on the basis of cultural, social and/ or racial identity ” I take great offence at that.

          • Sheez Gagoo

            Please. It was not about race or stuff. What I meant were the mechanism of exclusion which also fits on watches, products etc.

          • Raymond Wilkie

            Ok . You have to allow people to express their own opinions on what is featured on the blog without having to post a link about the mechanics of exclusion. Moving on……………

          • Sheez Gagoo

            I apologize whe I offended you. I agree on having different opinions, there are a lot of watches I don’t like. I personally would not wear a Casio (except for army/airforce) or a smartwatch (not yet) but I consider them as serious watches and technical masterpieces, what they simply are. I’ve seen twice where this kind of ignorance leads:
            First, older watchmaker (all retired now) remember very well what happened in the seventies, when Switzerland ignored quartz. And I see it right now. Hayek said the Apple watch is not a watch while selling crappy Swatches and Tissots while his profits plunged. I am personally touched by this ignorance and arrogance. When I lose my current job I’ll not find another one, that’s for sure. Horological ignorance leads to unemployment. Again. And yes, I consider it as my duty to fight horological ignorance. I have ho problem with your opinion. I have a problem with the talibanesque furor you present it. And I have a serious problem when you want to turn this blog into a Casio-or smartwatch free zone. This is in fact a reason why I’m here. Watch medias in Switzerland and Germany are comparable to the Prawda. I like the horological openmindedness of this blog. You, sometimes behave like an advocat of the whole community here. This is simply not the case.

          • Raymond Wilkie

            Firstly…. ” talibanesque furor “……………..love it 🙂
            Secondly, Love Casio , great make.
            Thirdly, You’r right. I see it in myself and i can’t help it but i am old fashioned git and stuck in my ways. We can argue semantics till the cows come home but Holology for me is either hand wound or automatic’ even quartz. This smart nonsense has past me right by and i can’t pretend it i like it, but i have taken on board that i should maybe let other get on with it and not be so vocal about my disdain of them.

        • IG

          You must look proper macho crusing in your Threewheeler.

    • Yan Fin

      So….you don’t like this watch? Really?

      • Raymond Wilkie

        It’s not a cockamamy watch !

    • benjameshodges

      I wouldn’t say hatred but utter indifference sums up my feelings.

  • commentator bob

    I admire the consistency of every watch being set to 10:09.

    • WINKS

      The exact time of Steve Jobs’ birth?

      • MEddie90

        I assumed it was a playful reference to the times typically used to advertise analog watches. 10:08 to 10:09 are popular because they are roughly symmetrical ad do a good job of framing the brand logo.

        • Dr. Renato Lazarus

          I read an article about this a while back. I think someone at Apple said that because other brands set their hands at 10:10, Apple wanted to set theirs at 10:09 to signify being ahead of the curve or something. One upping. Or one beforing, to be more precise.

    • Sheez Gagoo

      date always on 8.

      • Dave Pryor

        That attracts the Asian crowd. Eight is lucky.

  • wejpasadena

    I still can’t get over the idea of a watch that has to be charged every day or so…plugged in or the wall or to some other thing. This seems like a step backward even though in other ways it is a step forward.

    • Jack_C85048

      As somebody who uses one for work, I actually don’t find that to be a nuisance, my v2 usually charges to 100% (from 40-50%) in about 35 minutes.

      I take it off when I get in the shower, and by the time I’m ready to leave for work, it’s full. About the same amount of bother as it is to wind a good hand cranker.

  • SuperStrapper

    In my professional field ApplePay is the only apple product that is worth talking about. Does the apple watch directly support ApplePay?

    If not I bet I know what the series 4 hubbub will be all about.

    • fer

      It has supported apple pay since the first iteration. You just push the side button twice, apple pay opens, put it next to the reader, and done.

      • SuperStrapper

        Understood

  • Pete Pete

    and no coverage of the new pocket watches?! seriously? they’re way more interesting!

  • Mikita
    • Sheez Gagoo

      Welcome back.

      • Mikita

        Thanks 🙂 will be fully back in Oct.

        • Sheez Gagoo

          Arrested?

  • Dr. Renato Lazarus

    So I can leave my BlackBerry at home and get calls on this thing?

  • Gin Tub

    I fear this is the next quarts crisis I love watches and hate tech (this is tech) but even I the ultimate luddite would actually wear one of these. Perhaps on the other wrist. APOS on the left piece of tech crap on the right and forgo the Cartier love bangle I look forward to skynet

  • Gin Tub
  • BNABOD

    These things are here to stay and will only get better with time but I for one do not want more connectivity. The work pace is already insane (in my field) and there isn’t much more we can cram in a day or night. So no when I sit down for three Flippin minutes I do not want to be reminded of my emails text blood pressure heart rate and barometric pressure. When I sit my a&& down I want to relax or try to and this thing i see as something coming between me and relaxing and that is not a good thing. A friend at work has one of these and while on business trip to D.C every damn time the thing buzzed bipped she stared at it like a constant interruption in your life. I am not saying I will never own one of these devices but for now I just want to disconnect.

    • Sheez Gagoo

      This is a reasonable statement!

      • commentator bob

        Very reasonable and very depressing. I bet BNABOD will hold out longer than most of the loudest critics, for example Raymond Wilkie, but eventually we will all become even more “connected.”

    • Shinytoys

      You can control the amount of connectivity…and there’s still an on and off switch. The world is your oyster…pick and choose…

  • Well, I have said before that I would buy one when they put a radio in it. Looks like I will have to honor my promise. Thanks for the review ZL.

    • Gokart Mozart

      Does it have a radio, or is it digital radio over the internet?

      • By “radio” I mean cellular telephone radio.

  • William McKinley Ryan

    And zero mention as to whether or not we can access PornHub on that little screen.

    • commentator bob

      That will be the true determinant of whether mechanical watches are dead.

  • Shinytoys

    Finally smartwatches are making proper strides in technology. Remember the old Dick Tracy cartoons, he’s speaking into his watch. The ability to have a stand alone product that allows you to leave “the brick” behind is fantastic. Since the brick sits on my hip, I’ll now move the watch to my right wrist and wear whatever other watch of my collection on my left wrist. Done and done. With me, It’s never been a question of the smartwatch replacing the mechanical watch. I never bought into that thinking and still don’t. Leaving the brick at home, THAT’s HIP !!! Thanks for the great coverage Zen Love…

  • Han Cnx

    Boo! (No “Boo” option in the article buttons; forced to comment.)

  • Ben Sanderson

    Getting closer, standalone is great but I’m suspicious of the batter life claims from Apple. Have a feeling lots of people might buy this to replace their phone. The iwatch and a tablet together make the phone obsolete.

    • fer

      The watch still needs to be paired to an iPhone to work.

  • Dartagnan

    It’s getting closer to an actual product worth purchasing, but it’s still not there. When it replaces the phone, which it will, doubters, or at the very least get leap-frogged by gestural (here now, just not commercially ready) or neuro-implant tech (10 years out), then we’ll be there. Just like the iPhone replaced several gadgets, the smart-watch 10.0 (or whatever you want to call it) will replace the phone altogether. And then, dear comment readers, the wristwatch will be well and truly dead – for most, but not all. Patek can still breath easy – artisanal watchmaking will NEVER die.

  • Steve

    It’s still not a watch…

    • fer

      What is a watch?

      • Dr. Renato Lazarus

        What is you? 🙂

        • fer

          I is human.

    • Pete Pete

      not a watch. and not a smartphone either. it’s a fitness tracker companion for the iphone, that’s all it is. and that’s all it’ll ever be until we all have megavision-eye-implants that make it possible to do something productive with a screen the size of a stamp.

  • Mark1884

    NO already!!!