John Isaac Geneve Rough Sea Watch

John Isaac Geneve Rough Sea Watch

John Isaac Geneve Rough Sea Watch   watch releases

New watch brand John Isaac Geneve is serving up some more than decent timepieces that play Frankenstein with some of your favorite brands. They seem to particularly like playing house with Patek Philippe and Franck Muller, though JeanRichard makes an entrance pretty often. The brand's debut collection features a range of pieces for both men and women. Their diver is called the Rough Sea and comes in three dial colors.

John Isaac Geneve Rough Sea Watch   watch releases

John Isaac Geneve Rough Sea Watch   watch releases

Each of the brand's watch cases are elliptical in shape. They bring to mind the iconic Patek Philippe Ellipse watch. Though the Rough Sea case is more Patek Philippe Aquanaut in design with some JeanRichard Diverscope in the mix. You can see more of the Diverscope in John Isaac's Grand Prix chronograph watches.

The mixture of design elements and famous watch styles is rather satisfying actually. Seeing those Franck Muller numerals (that actually originated before Franck Muller was around. I recall seeing them on early 20th century Patek Philippe watches) mixed with Patek elements and sport themes is neat and something I wouldn't have considered myself. While those numerals are more present on John Isaac's other pieces, you do get it for the 12 o'clock indicator on this watch.

John Isaac Geneve Rough Sea Watch   watch releases

John Isaac Geneve Rough Sea Watch   watch releases

In a steel case that is water resistant to 50 meters the Rough Sea is 35.5mm wide but taller than it is wide so it does not feel so small. Though this is a medium-sized watch. As you can see in the "lifestyle" shot that John Isaac provides, the watch is certainly not in the family of massive dive watches. Some of you will love this, others wont. With 50 meters of water resistance this is strictly a desk (or dinner) diver watch. You shouldn't really be doing more than washing your hands or dishes with this on (more like Tame Sea). Actually, that is a bit of a shame as it would be nice to have this nice looking dive-style watch be more activity suited. Then again, most logical people would retort with the fact that something like 1-2% of people wearing dive watches even take them underwater.

John Isaac Geneve Rough Sea Watch   watch releases

John Isaac Geneve Rough Sea Watch   watch releases

Crystal is sapphire and there is another sapphire crystal on the caseback of the watch showing off the movement. In this case that is a Swiss ETA 2824-2 automatic that is said to have some decoration. The term they use is "deluxe" which could mean anything. The textured dial is appealing and I like the integration of the internal rotating diver's bezel. Sporty orange is used for the hour hand, while all the hands and hour numerals are applied with LumiNova lume (no SuperLumiNova?). Dial styles are black, blue and gray. While I like the black dial version best, it might be wise to get a blue or gray version as the black minute hand might blend in too much with the black dial causing legibility issues.

The lugless case design is attractive and I overall like the style of the watch. It works well and is polished in its look. John Isaac matches the Rough Sea with a buffalo leather strap with folding clasp. They also provide an additional rubber strap, which should go well with this look. Price for the John Isaac Rough Sea watch 1,990 Swiss Francs and you can get them online via their website.

18 comments
socabaptist
socabaptist

I like the look of the watch, I like the internal bezel. I find the watch size small and the 50 meters water resistance mystifying. Why have an internal bezel with 50 meters water resistance? Set your dive time in the shower?


Hmm.. for that price, I could get a Seiko Tuna - several models and with more saving even afford a Tudor Pelagos, 


Increase the size to 42mm increase the water resistance to at least 200m and you might have something here.


Seiko Tuna here I come!!

droo
droo

Well, most of the time I am pretty impressed by the models shown on this website. I feel like there is a lack of freedom from the designer of this watch, looking close to Patek with a subtle difference making me say it is an faded hommage, not a hit. The case is neat and takes the light ok,  still a little too heavy to be sexy. The dial is not appealing to me, indexes (except 12)  are too flat relatively to the dial structure ; something wrong with the hands : mainly because a real diver is emphasing the minute hand, not the hour hand (colour and proportions should be inverted). The two opposite crowns are reminding me about diverscopes (DJR and such) but not very convincing for use... The strap is not exciting either, it seems to be of fine quality but does not bring anything to the watch (and it should)... I won't put 2000 CHF in such a watch, sorry

Chris I
Chris I

I don't understand this watch at all. On one hand I like the case design, the face and the internal bezel...but a 50M dive watch?, black minute hand on black dial? Two critical errors. Now no one actually uses one of these things to ensure their diving safety but at least we have to have the details covered to pretend.

I disagree with the (possible) argument that only 1-2% take their dive watch near water. I would bet most at least go swimming in a pool or the ocean with them. At 50m, Ariel you are right, it is dishes depth at most. Even then cross your fingers.

This watch would be really cool with 200m-300m WR, and a contrasting minute hand on the black dial. Not sure it would be 3k cool though.

When I saw it was called the rough sea I expected perhaps 1000m...

Geoff
Geoff

Sorry - is it just me or does this watch have 2 crowns. Is that unusual?!

Ulysses
Ulysses

It's quite eye-catching because of the unusual case shape. The lug-less design is also a nice touch. Not keen on the rather harsh dial pattern though.

Chris
Chris

"In a steel case that is water resistant to 50 meters the Rough Sea is 35.5mm wide but taller than it is wide so it does not feel so small"

I'm confused, Ariel. You don't have an example of the watch. How would you know how it feels?

Eric R
Eric R

I bought a Rough Sea Ruthenium when in Geneva 2 months ago! I agree it got that PP (lot better than FM btw) inspired style, but that isn't a crime! The watch comes with a second bracelet more appropriate for water... For a first collection, no doubt JI made a good job for an "affordable" price!
JI has also the only website I know where you can make an order and return the item FOR FREE. "As with any prestigious timepiece, you need to have the watch on your wrist to never want to take it off! So, in order to be able to try-on a John Isaac watch on your own time and in the comfort of your own home (at no cost to you*)!" (checkout page)
I tested the service two weeks ago for my wife's birthday and had to return the watch as she preferred a TH! but still was fun for her to try it on.

Chris
Chris

So the watch design is a bit derivative. It reminds me of the Yurman watches introduced in the late 90s. It's unfortunate that the numbers recall Franck Muller. Yeah, 50M water resistance is pretty sad, but hey, it's a dive watch on a leather strap. It wasn't meant to go near the water. It's not bad looking, though.

The rest of the line-up is pretty nice. It's an interesting juxtaposition of the organic case shape with the Clos de Paris dials. I like the One watches. Too bad they appear to be for women. It's a bold move for a new designer to call a model the Icon. Maybe he has been reading the Franck Muller playbook.

The site does need more photos, showing the watches in profile, as well as the strap attachment points.

IS3515
IS3515

Nice watch but should have offered 200m with an optional rubber strap.

kris c
kris c

Why would you call a watch "Rough Sea", if it can't even go in a birdbath? For $3k+ there wasn't enough resources to make the thing watertight enough so you could actually have a purpose for the inner rotating bezel? Very confusing.

Also, you can throw AP into the mix for design influences - that dial texture has ROO written all over it.

Greg
Greg

Is John Isaac praying for a positive review in that photo?
He looks a little glum, show him that 219 Kukulkan monstrosity that you reviewed previously, that'll cheer him up!

Chris
Chris

I'm certain that Rough Sea refers to the difficulty of launching a new Swiss watch brand in this economy with the Swiss Franc as high as it is. It was originally going to be called the Shit Storm, but people would have complained about the lack of brown dials as an option.

Ulysses
Ulysses

It does indeed. I am guessing the one on the left is to rotate the internal dive ring.

admin
admin

Chris, I meant more "visually feels on the wrist" given the picture they supplied. Sorry about the confusion.

Chris
Chris

Linde Werdelin has a try out program, but I agree it's a great idea.

admin
admin

It does come with a rubber strap but I agree about the water resistance.

admin
admin

Chris, that really made me laugh out loud!

Chris
Chris

I'm just bustin' your chops, Ariel. I'm getting you back for posting that Mayan monstrosity the other day.

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