Linde Werdelin Oktopus II Double Date Titanium Blue Dive Watch

Linde Werdelin Oktopus II Double Date Titanium Blue Dive Watch

Linde Werdelin Oktopus II Double Date Titanium Blue Dive Watch   watch releases

Linde Werdelin likes to call themselves a watch lab. The notion suggests an image of scientists sitting around in a white room dreaming up the next cool timepiece. Is this sexy sounding concept true? Yes actually, but Linde Werdelin is not alone in their experimentation. Most small brands have lab style product development processes which eventually lead to final products. How does it work and why is it a good idea?

Linde Werdelin Oktopus II Double Date Titanium Blue Dive Watch   watch releases

Linde Werdelin Oktopus II Double Date Titanium Blue Dive Watch   watch releases

I appreciate that Linde Werdelin has decided it makes sense to explicitly state what many brands don't discuss - that they take peer review into strict consideration when finalizing their watches. It has been more or less promised to myself and other watch writers that whatever we view at watch shows such as Baselworld are unfinished prototypes. Brands like Linde Werdelin produce close to reality experimental designs that they share with reviewers and retailers before pieces are produced for sale. Suggestions and feedback go into the final products - which is exactly what happened with their Oktopus II Double Date Dive watch.

Linde Werdelin Oktopus II Double Date Titanium Blue Dive Watch   watch releases

This peer review production process is actually harder than simply conceiving a watch and then having it made. Watch production for small boutique brands is a laborious and highly time consuming process. Brands like Linde Werdelin rely on a range of suppliers that produce the many small parts which go into their watches. Working with suppliers takes a long time to get deliveries, and the process can be frustrating for brands. Going back and forth to get pieces 'just right' is an appreciated ordeal that they go through.

Linde Werdelin Oktopus II Double Date Titanium Blue Dive Watch   watch releases

Watch design experimentation is also complicated because it can be difficult to know what advice to use and which to discard. You can't please everyone, and it takes a clever team to properly sort out the most useful advice. The Oktopus II for example ended up being more legible and having a more beautiful face. The collection also gets this sexy blue accented titanium model. You can see my original post on the Linde Werdelin Oktopus II Double Date watch here to examine some of the small changes. The updated final design is tweaked with an emphasis on boldness and detail polishing. I still very much like the black ceramic bezel on the 44mm wide titanium case (that is water resistant to 300 meters). This blue accented model will sit next to the yellow accented model very nicely.

Linde Werdelin Oktopus II Double Date Titanium Blue Dive Watch   watch releases

What are some of the precise differences from the prototype to this final version? Here are some words from them on the matter:

"The titanium case body has undergone a rougher polish to achieve a more masculine finish. The ceramic bezel has been widened around the fixing screws allowing a stronger hint of colour display from the eight coloured tension disks. The bezel has been given a satin finish with a polished facet on the outer side creating a more luxurious and interesting contrast under the light. The 3 o’clock unit has been opened up with a curve on top to add elegance yet enable easy access to the crown.

The Double Date complication has been visually amplified by opening further the construction of the two independent date wheels. The upper dial has been finalised with a circular satin finish to create an extra visual dimension with subtle gleams under the light."

Linde Werdelin Oktopus II watches should be available soon via their retailers. The entire process from start to finish is fascinating for me to view and I appreciate how the brand makes a concerted effort to share it all with their fans. As well as their octopus wrangling. Prices for the Oktopus II Double Date Dive watch will range from 8,800 - 18,500 Swiss Francs (US Prices $9,880, $10,580, and $20,580).

Linde Werdelin Oktopus II Double Date Titanium Blue Dive Watch   watch releases

Linde Werdelin Oktopus II Double Date Titanium Blue Dive Watch   watch releases

Tech specs from Linde Werdelin:

Name: Oktopus II — Double Date
Models: Oktopus II — Double Date in titanium and ceramic with blue accents in the dial — 88 pieces
Oktopus II — Double Date in titanium, titanium DLC and ceramic with yellow accents in the dial — 88 pieces
Oktopus II — Double Date rose gold and titanium with rose gold accents in the dial — 88 pieces
Case: 5 part case-construction / 2.5 mm sapphire crystal antireflective on one side / Screw in back case with engraved octopus drawing / Screw in crown with engraved octopus symbol
Dimensions: 44mm (w) by 46mm (l) by 15,25mm (h)
Dial: 2 layer dial / upper layer laser-cut in stencil technique / lower dial circular Côtes de Genève / date dial at 12 o’clock / date wheel laser-cut layer / hands in stainless steel with satin finish / LW cool grey 1U bespoke superluminova
Movement: Linde Werdelin modified Dubois Depraz caliber 14580 / automatic / double date at 12 o’clock / 40 to 44 hour power reserve / 26 jewels / 28,800 bph (4 Hz)
Water Water Resistance: 300m
Strap: Bespoke high-end rubber strap, interchangeable within Linde Werdelin’s proprietary strap system

15 comments
Henry Miller
Henry Miller

A sad wannabe of  a watch. Sure, somebody will sell it and chastise those who dare to call it what it is, but thats bidness today.

Date? where? Hackable? Screw down crown? Iso-Shock inside to deal with rough wear?

Purty little thang...but it ain't worth the money being asked.

But somebody will sell it - And somebody will buy it.

MarkCarson
MarkCarson

Desk Diver - plain and simple. And no JohnnyJohnnyJohnny, you don't have to be at a desk to do "desk diving". But this all makes sense as why would anyone take a roughly $10K to $20K watch diving? At that price it is hardly a tool watch for diving. Plus you have digital dive instruments these days and a dive watch is backup or just for show - but I would still want it to work for timing my dive.

Scott A
Scott A

I put this comment first but did not show up after I signed out. I guess I'm not a computor guy...more of a watch guy...LOL.

I think we all come here to ablogtoread to learn, be entertained, to comment and even to complain. I know thats why I enjoy reading this blog. My 2 cents, comparing this to the Audemars Piguet Royal Oak, that has been around since 1972 so its a look that has stood the test of time. Having said that it is a good point that there are 12 hrs am and 12pm in a day. So eight screws could be a design flaw in some peoples eyes. That is o.k. I beleive it boils down to individuals tast. "Choose your love. Love your choice." There is no wrong answer or style. The watch that sings to you...buy it

Scott A
Scott A

Oh, and I do like this watch. I'd wear it!

Scott A
Scott A

I think we all come here to ablogtoread to learn, be entertained, to comment and even to complain. I know thats why I enjoy reading this blog. My 2 cents, the Audemars Piguet Royal Oak has been around since 1972 so its a look that has stood the test of time. Having said that it is a good point that there are 12 hrs am and 12pm in a day. So eight screws could be a design flaw in some peoples eyes. That is o.k. I beleive it boils down to individuals tast. "Choose your love. Love your choice." There is no wrong answer or style. The watch that sings to you...buy it!

SuperStrapper
SuperStrapper

I must be an idiot, because I would never let a bezel with 8 markers on it past the drawing board. Looks like a total fail to me. Other than that, there is a lot to like here, but that one error is enough to have me very decidedly walking away.

orangedoxa
orangedoxa

I find the seconds hand annoying.  Maybe it is the taper, maybe it is the size.  If it looked more like a matchstick with a blue tip, it would be cooler.  Right now it looks like another minute hand.

From a scuba diving perspective:  This is pretty useless as a dive watch.  When you're underwater, you could give a crap what the actual time is, but that's all this is good for.  Where is the rotating bezel?  You use a dive watch to time how long you have been down there.  Not only is this important for your nitrogen absorption, (if you don't keep track of this you have no business diving,)  but it is also essential to enter Dive Times in your dive log.  This watch is essentially useless without a rotating bezel to mark the start of the dive.

Apparently this is for desk divers who have never taken a scuba lesson in their life.  Sir, put down the octopus.

Maximilien
Maximilien

MarkCarson LW sells a nice digital add-on called The Reef that attaches and provides all types of diving info. That's the rationale for fixed bezel... I reluctantly agree with LW's choice to move the diving info to the digital instrument, however, I agree with you that LW is becoming expensive---the first Oktopus was, if i recall correctly, ~$5k or so, which was acceptable. Now at ~$10k I'd rather get a Rolex Seadweller... At least I'd know that 20 years from now it will be worth more than I pay for it. LW is unproven and not clear they'll be around in 20 years.

nateb123
nateb123

@Kris C How is it an error?  It is a non-moving bezel with no markings on it.  It's not functional.  You gonna complain the case has only 4 bolts on it next?  Tell the time by the dial.  It's not rocket science.

nateb123
nateb123

@AlanRya65137484 True.  That seconds hand is far too broad.  As for LW's being used for diving, they actually make high quality electronic modules specifically for diving which fit over this watch so you can have a dive computer without taking it off.  Kind of pointless but at least they considered that.

MarkCarson
MarkCarson

@Maximilien  

So this is not a "dive watch" but rather a watch you don't have to take off when you go diving, ha ha. Sort of crazy but maybe that line of logic works (using along with their real dive instruments). I'd still hate to lose a $10 - $20K watch to the ocean depths - especially if it was on my wrist for no good (functional) reason.

Cheers

SuperStrapper
SuperStrapper

Actually, if you look close, you will see that there are markings on the bezel: the bolts. And while you don't have to be a rocket scientist to tell the time, you're not even kidding yourself to say that a bolt pattern on a bezel does or does not lend itself as a reference for hour markers. And since that reference would be 12 or 24 hours, 8 is an error. Plain and simple.

And its not a complaint, its a comment. Complaining is what you're doing about my original comment, as you obviously don't have enough insight to say something about the watch, but still want everyone to know you still have a keyboard.

Ariel Adams
Ariel Adams

Yea, this is sort of their point. They make "The Reef" which is a clip on dive computer which is meant to be placed over the dial to handle all the dive functions. The dial you really only need to use when outside of the water.

nateb123
nateb123

@Kris C "Error" would imply that they did something wrong which has a definite correct way of being done.  8 bolts was clearly deliberate as it is called the OKTOpus.  It may be a design choice you don't agree with but it is not an error.  Also, Royal Oak. So there.