Top Things To Look For In A Luxury Watch Part 3: High End Luxury

Top Things To Look For In A Luxury Watch Part 3: High End Luxury

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For $20,000 and up watches:

A large population of high-end luxury watch buyers know precisely what they are getting into with each new acquisition. Years of being a watch lover has allowed them to appreciate “must-have” novelties, as well as the desirability of traditional items. Years of study are required before fully understanding what goes into the value of a high-end luxury purchases ($20,000, and up, and way way up). This helps create an understanding of those watches which are worth their high cost in terms of value, and those that while expensive, are a mere emotional purchase with less than stellar  post-purchase value. Watches near the apogee of the luxury world that you should want to have, tend to share various desirable traits. Taken together, you should these factors in your ultra high end watch purchase decision making process. In this third and final segment of the “top things to look for in a luxury watch,” you should take these items together with those in the past two articles as much as is logically possible.  When spending ‘mucho dinero’ on a watch. Consider the following:

1. Precious Metal Construction

It should go without saying that a high end expensive watch should be constructed from quality materials. This means the best possible metals and so forth, but it is also a good idea to ensure that the metals involved are inherently valuable. Take for instance a luxury watch that is 18k gold versus titanium. Which one is going to have more value in the abstract? Not only that, but it is a good idea to investigate how much precious metals are used. Parts of the case? All of the case? Are the hands and hour markers gold? When talking about watches at $20,000 and up, you should expect to see a fair amount precious metals used in the construction and execution of the watch. The most common metals are of course the various colors of gold (yellow, rose, pink, red, white, etc…) as well as platinum. Silver is rarely used for cases, and a bit more commonly use for traditional looking watch dials. It also goes without saying that precious stones also are a desirable component given the style and variety of the watch.

2. Natural, Quality Jewels

As I just mentioned, if you are purchasing a watch with precious jewels you want to take a close look at them. The first thing to look at is the origin of the stones. The two major options are natural or manufactured. Natural stones are obtained the traditional manner – via often controversial mining methods. There is an inherent romance to the concept that a stone was derived from the earth, discovered, cut and polished, and then used on your luxury item. Aside from “recycled stones” (taken from older or unsold items), the alternative to natural stones are manufactured stones. These are not synthetic stones, but real stones that have been grown in a lab. So real stones, not naturally made. Probably the most popular synthetic stones in watches are sapphires (that come in many colors now and of course make up your luxury watch crystal), diamonds to a degree, and many other types of stones (or other non-stone materials such as mother-of-pearl that is grown mostly and not harvested anymore). Of course the most valuable stones are natural ones.

You then want to look at the quality and amount of the stones. A few very clear stones with good color are going to be worth more than a large array of cheaper stones. Take a good look at the color of the stones and the size of each. Ask for the total carat amount and where the stones came from. Generally those watch companies with well-established jewelry making arms are going to have the best types of stones utilized in their high end luxury timepieces. You don’t need precious jewels to make a high end luxury watch, but if you want them, do your homework.

3. Manufacture Made Movement

Most watch companies in the world do not make their own movements. They source movements from various movement suppliers. The most well known European watch movement maker is ETA, and is part of the large Swatch Group. Some companies purchase movements and use them as is, and other times they modify or add to movements (modules) making the more unique and complex. This also involves various types of decoration that a watch maker might include on a movement. The best watch makers design and construct their own movements in house – even if they don’t make other components of the watches. You’ll find that the top house such as Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet, Jaeger-LeCoultre, A. Lange & Sohne, among others each make their own movements.

Having an exclusive movement made by the watch brand almost always ensures a high level of decoration in a beautifully made, and sometimes very complex watch movement. You’ll know that few timepieces have the same movement, and you can be part of the exclusive club of people who have timepieces with “in-house manufacture made movements” (bragging + snob rights).

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4. Seal Of Geneva

This seal is a certification of quality and origin. The seal is applied directly on the movements of specific watches that satisfy the stringent rules as applied by Swiss law. The Seal of Geneva is placed on certain watches that have movements which are mostly created and assembled within the canton of Geneva in Switzerland. The movements must also have various technical and decoration requirements in addition to their place of origin. Only a handful of watch makers have movements with the Seal, and it is very hard to get. Just because a watch does not have the Seal does not make it bad, but those that do enjoy the Seal of Geneva are most always impressive high luxury timepieces.

Learn more about the Seal of Geneva here.

5. Exotic Materials

Do you ever get bored of all the mainstream metal luxury watches? Apparently some watch makers do. The last few years have seen an impressive number of luxury timepieces being released that make use of interesting materials in the case construction as well as the movement. These materials range from unique alloys exclusive to particular watch makers, to exotic compounds you’ve never heard of, as well as innovative ways of using materials for watches that were not previously used for watches. In an ongoing effort to differentiate themselves, watch makers have gone to great lengths to use exotic materials for watch making. Sometimes even improving a watch in doing so.

For example, something called silicium is being used in some watch movements by companies such as Patek Philippe and Ulysse Nardin. The exotic material does not require lubrication and thus helps the longevity and accuracy of a watch movement. On the outside you have ceramics used that are very hard and much tougher than metal to scratch. Exotic materials used on the outside of a high end luxury watch can vary widely. It is of course common to see steel, gold, titanium, and various styles of leather. These days you also have materials such as rubber, forged carbon, carbon fiber, composite resin (basically fancy plastic), natural stones, complex shaped sapphire crystals, ceramic compounds, and many more. The bottom line is that with a world of interesting materials, you can appreciate unique application of some of them inside or outside a timepiece when your focus is on the very high-end of timepieces.

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6. Many Hours of Hand Construction and Assembly

A question you should always present to a watch retailer is, “how long does it takes to make this watch?” They should know the answer, and be proud of it – even though it is a number of months. High-end watches are hand made and assembled by master watch makers. Sometimes a team of people will be involved in making the watch, other times a single watch maker toils for as long as a year or more on a single watch. As each part needs to be fabricated, decorated, assembled, and tested, you can image that the process takes a long time. The longer it takes to make a watch, the more refinement and decoration will be found in an on it. There is no specific amount of time that you should look for as it depends on the company. Rolex for example uses complex robotics and departments to make watches – even though their most expensive watches have jewelers who hand set gems. Rolex can take just a few days to make a watch, while a less industrialized brand can take several months.

7. Complications

High-end watches don’t just have beautiful mechanical movements, they have complex movements. A watch costing in excess of $20,000 should often do more than just tell the time, or it should tell the time in a special way. Other complications effect how accurate a watch is or how interesting the movement is to look at while in operation (i.e. various types of tourbillon escapements). Other common complications in high end watches are perpetual calendars, rattrapante chronographs, sonneries, fusee and chains, moon phases, and multiple time zones along with world timers. Be cognizant of what complications the watch you are looking at has. When looking at higher-end watches you might want to ensure that the complications you are interested in aren’t available at lower prices to help secure the value of your purchase decision.

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8. Highly Refined Designer Looks

A high-end watch should be beautiful. It should have a large amount of time and effort invested in the design, meaning that the beauty of the watch should not wear off like the novelty and relevance of a new computer. The best watch makers are skilled in making unique designs, but ones that are “instant classics.” You have to have a good eye to spot the best, but there are things you can do to test this out aside from recognizing that a watch has a famous designer. First, look at the watch again after you saw and loved it the first time. Do you still feel good about it the second time? Also, look at a series of other nice watches. Is the watch you like still your favorite when you return to it after seeing other nice watches? Last, and trust me on this one – if you have the watch in front of you, then wear it, and also have someone else wear it. Seeing it on your own wrist is not nearly as good a indicator as seeing it on someone else’s wrist. The best designs will look good on anyone. Lastly, when looking at a designer look, you want to make sure it has enough unique qualities to justify the “exclusive” item you are thinking about buying.

9. Limited Production

The best luxury things in life comes in small quantities and are made in limited productions by dedicated people. Besides, having too much of anything cuts the value and the intrigue. So look for limited edition or highly limited production watches. Ask how many of a particular model have been made and whether or not there are 1000 or 100,000 of them out there. The more limited a watch is, the more exclusive it is, which is a major component of true luxury goods.

10. Investment Grade Acquisition

The lucky high-end luxury watch buyer will be able to afford a timepiece that has the potential to increase in value. On the one hand there are certain brands that commonly have their most exclusive models increase in value (such as Patek Phillipe and Rolex), but certain other watch models or brands may have this same quality. It is very difficult to gauge whether a watch will increase in value (unless it is a rare Patek Philippe watch that is going to be difficult to get in the first place), but do your best to follow the above guidelines and you might first yourself with an investment grade timepiece. In the end you aren’t buying a watch for value alone (fashion and function are at issue), but it would be at least nice to know your acquisition retains value.

Top Things To Look For In A Luxury Watch Part 1: Entry Level Luxury

Top Things To Look For In A Luxury Watch Part 2: Medium Range Luxury

26 comments
kridder814
kridder814

Thank you for the articles!  Very informative and educational for someone (me) who is new to being a watch enthusiast!  I would think there are things that even a seasoned veteran could learn from them as well (but being new, I don't really know that for sure).

My "collection" began with a Timex and has progressed, over the years, to the "beginner" level ($300 range).  I have been drooling over your reviews of some of the more expensive watches, though, and I am looking forward to adding one to make my "collection" a more "legitimate" one!

gabriela figueiras
gabriela figueiras

I have always heard about the legendary Patek Phillipe, worldwide known as one of the best and most traditional brands of the whole sector, watches that were made to be passed from one generation to another. Considering its lengthy trajectory of success, and the very positive recommendations of their watches, I’d decided to buy a Patek Phillipe watch.

Unfortunately, it was the beginning of a nightmare. I bought my watch on March, 12, 2010, and, with a few months of use, to my surprise,  it started to show delays.  Following the company’s instructions, I then forwarded it to the dealer at my city (H-Stern), and received the watch back just before that year´s Christmas (almost 10 months later). Surprisingly, the problem had not been solved, and I had to leave the watch, again, at the dealer on March, 17, 2011. They gave it back to me after two months, but, incredibly, the delays continued. During this time I have sent two letters to Patek Phillipe´s headquarters, at Geneve, Switzerland, however I have never been replied.

Finally, after having been contacted by the dealer at my city, I forwarded the watch, for the third time, to repair. To my surprise and despair, after working properly for a short period, the delays came back. At this time I took the watch out of my wrist and stopped using it. I am waiting for a real solution to my problem since September, 2010. I express here my utter regret on buying a Patek Phillipe watch.

Reference: 5167/1A-001

Movement: 5514324/4714636

Sergio Moura - gabrielafigueiras@qca.adv.br

peter_lydon
peter_lydon

Excellent article. I wonder if the 'exotic materials' use is in part due to the increased cost os precious metals or does that really matter if someone has enough loot to purchase a high-end watch? Cheers.

mrpong
mrpong

My greatest desire is to own a good used (2-3 yrs old) Ball watch. Where should I look? Ebay?

Gena
Gena

Hi I am a big fan of Zenith watches, and have been contemplating one of their Cira 2003/2004 Perpetual movement El primero Chronomaster watches in Gold. Any opinion on the quality of these watches? and as far as value?

Joshua
Joshua

One of the top five world-wide brands, Girard-Perregaux, makes all its movements in-house (by hand) and even makes movements for other companies. Also, Girard-Perregaux not only makes its own movements, but it makes its own cases. And Girard-Perregaux either makes limited editions, sometimes only 5 of a particular watch, or a series, which tend to be about 1,000 or 2,000 of a particular watch in the whole world. Check out their boutique on Madison Avenue in Manhattan or just call them for a catalog, of which they have several varieties (i.e., from a tiny one with a quite a few watches shown to a bigger more informative one that delves into the company's history).

Aysel Kylych
Aysel Kylych

I would like to sell unworn, 100% new Bovet man watch, a unique piece. Where I can do it?

James
James

hello
I am astronomer thinking of buying a watch. Do you know of any company's that sell good astronomy watches ?

Quinten
Quinten

Great article! I really enjoy and have learned from these three articles. Thanks!

danny seymour
danny seymour

really enjoy your comments
i have a malte dual time, a mille miglia jackie iyxks, a rolex datejust

she just bought me a yachtmaster platinum but the jeweler mentioned a vintage rolex which might appreciate in value

any thoughts i had been thinking of a simple submariner then saw the deepsea and gmt

Richard
Richard

Thank you very much for your effort in writing these articles. They've helped me be a bit more informed in my entrance at the bottom of the market!

KCD
KCD

Great series of articles, very insightful. Now, with all these fine watches, any ideas on a moderately priced watch winders? Thanks

HDurbin
HDurbin

Great series of articles, interesting and informative - thanks!

JSP
JSP

Vacheron Constantin does still use the Geneva seal, but Patek now uses their own seal, the Patek Philippe seal. Many high-end companies do not even use the seal. Lange, AP and JLC are few high-end companies that do not use the seal, instead they have their own in-house testing.

admin
admin

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admin
admin

Thanks Josh. You working for GP? Spreading the good word....

dvtrupp
dvtrupp

Did you ever sell it?

admin
admin

Citizen Astrodea are probably the most affordable. But for a different type of watch "Yes" watches are cool.

admin
admin

Glad to be of help.

admin
admin

Your welcome!

admin
admin

Hi Jason,
This is true, and I was trying to suggest that it was a plus, but not having it was not necessarily a negative. Meaning that if you have the Seal of Geneva on your movement it most always a good thing, but the lack of it does not communicate low quality or anything else negative. Plus, with Patek Philippe, I just can't take a self awarded system seriously. You know?

Joshua
Joshua

By the way, does anyone know who makes the superior equation of time watch? Audemar Piguet? Anyone know?

Joshua
Joshua

Hi, no, I don't work for GP, but I am an educated watch collector, following in the footsteps of my father.

admin
admin

Joshua, I was just playing given the tone and structure of your comment. Thanks for reading and come back soon!

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