Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Chronograph Watch In Steel Hands-On

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Chronograph Watch In Steel Hands-On

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Chronograph Watch In Steel Hands-On Hands-On

Blink, and you might miss 2017’s subtle updates to the Royal Oak Chronograph collection, but to eagle-eyed Audemars Piguet fans, these could be considered significant edits that bring a healthy dose of modernity and maybe just a touch of controversy to the classic spirit of the Swiss watchmaker’s most popular sport watch – and we’re not just referring to the sweet new bi-color ‘panda’ style dials.

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Chronograph Watch In Steel Hands-On Hands-On
All images by Ariel Adams

Let’s back up a bit though to SIHH earlier this year, when AP had not one, but a slew of new additions to the Royal Oak line – including the show-stopping Royal Oak Perpetual Calendar with a full ceramic bracelet. But there was a method to the Royal Oak madness this year, as the Gerald Genta-designed icon happens to be celebrating its 40th anniversary since being first introduced in precious metal, and its 20th anniversary since coming to life in three-register chronograph form in 1997.

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Chronograph Watch In Steel Hands-On Hands-On

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Chronograph Watch In Steel Hands-On Hands-On

In its two decades of service, the Royal Oak chronograph has understandably seen a small number of iterations over the years (most recently back in 2012), but this time around, the edits in question are all about simplifying the dial, boosting contrast and returning to the visual aesthetic that made the Royal Oak Chronograph a winner with fans in the first place. Most notably, this refers to 39mm references dating back to 2008 – at which time, homage was being paid to even earlier vintage Royal Oak references, making these new chronographs almost an homage to an homage, but that’s probably besides the point.

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Chronograph Watch In Steel Hands-On Hands-On

These throwback touches start with the registers which have been slightly edited – most notably the 6 and 9:00 sub-dials which have been enlarged for better legibility. There apparently wasn’t quite enough room on the dial to enlarge all three, so the running seconds sub-dial at 6:00 has been left the same size as before, while losing its Arabic numerals, resulting in a cleaner distinction of information between all three registers.

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Chronograph Watch In Steel Hands-On Hands-On

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Chronograph Watch In Steel Hands-On Hands-On

If you’ve already noted the new position of the date window, consider yourself among an extreme minority that noticed its subtle shift closer to the 5:00 index – a forced relocation as a result of the larger 3:00 sub-dial, and a further disruption to the overall symmetry (if the outgoing variant's date window at 4:30 could ever be called ‘symmetrical’). Thankfully though, it’s subtle at worst, and likely to go unnoticed by all but a few.

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Chronograph Watch In Steel Hands-On Hands-On

The popularity of the Royal Oak Offshore diver is likely to blame for the third change in question, which introduces a slightly wider, more luminous applied hour markers. Just like the larger registers, this update aimed to boost overall legibility, and create a sportier, more dynamic aesthetic. Unfortunately, this also comes perhaps partially at the expense of the understated elegance that’s defined the Royal Oak Chronograph for the last two decades. Furthermore, the collective tweaks ultimately introduce a greater degree of asymmetry that might be a bit jarring to fans who favor the sleek indices and balance of the Royal Oak Chronograph’s current iteration.

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Chronograph Watch In Steel Hands-On Hands-On

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Chronograph Watch In Steel Hands-On Hands-On

Dial aesthetics aside, from a size and functionality standpoint, the incoming Royal Oak models are still 41mm, and are still fitted with the Caliber 2385, a column wheel chronograph movement with a long history deployed inside AP chronographs. However, the fact that both the movement and the case dimensions are exactly the same as the predecessor further the mystery as to why AP would tweak a winning formula, seemingly without clear rhyme or reason. If a sportier aesthetic were the goal, these alterations feel more like meddling, than a truly purposeful update. If the latter were the goal, it seems like a tonal sub-dial at 6:00 and a re-balancing of the date window would have granted a cool, "bi-compax” aesthetic that would have been a better means of celebrating the collection’s new contrasting sub-dials – but then again, that particular look is reserved for the nautically-driven Offshore chronograph, and so here we are – arguably "neither here nor there."

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Chronograph Watch In Steel Hands-On Hands-On

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Chronograph Watch In Steel Hands-On Hands-On

But speaking of that look, as expected, the cases themselves exhibit Audemars’ exemplary finishing (an eight-stage process which includes many hours of cutting, sandblasting, lapping, polishing, and varnishing), and are fitted with that “Grand Tapisserie” waffled dial, still cut using a century-old pantograph machine. Now, unless you had them both together in the same room, on the wrist, the general aesthetic and wearing experience of the 2017 chronographs is consistent with the outgoing variants, which are a pleasure to wear. Ultimately, the most immediately noticeable change is the new ‘panda’ look, which is an undeniably excellent update, and one that should otherwise prove quite popular with Royal Oak fans new and old.

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Chronograph Watch In Steel Hands-On Hands-On

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Chronograph Watch In Steel Hands-On Hands-On

Stainless steel case variants (like this reference 26331ST.OO.1220ST.01) are available with black, blue, or this silver dial – each with contrasting registers, for a price of $24,300 on a stainless steel bracelet. For those who think the Royal Oak is best presented in precious metal, Audemars Piguet is also producing the new chronographs in solid rose gold, which are available in two dial options: brown or blue, each with the option of a solid gold bracelet or matching alligator leather strap. audemarspiguet.com

What do you think?
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  • Simon_Hell

    “Bi-color”….woo hoo, do the writers here take some e-learning courses in bullshit marketing terminology?

    Provided at no fee by manufacturers of a stale, boring, zero-inovation, most non-sporty sport watch ever, that hasn’t changed one fucking bit since 1972.

    • IanE

      Yes, remind me please: is this the 3,467th version or the 3,468th (my counting tends to get confused sometimes)?!

    • commentator bob

      They do have the offshore line for people that cannot handle the original Gérald Genta design. What kind of innovation are you looking for, an LCD display?

  • Grail watch!

  • Mikita

    Maybe they should try octagonal subdials to fit the case style better. Right now I have some weird feeling that something doesn’t match. Mind you – I love panda/inverse panda/panda with mouth watches.

    • Yan Fin

      Agreed. I like every element in RO, including waffle dial, screws, panda registers, size, shape. But together it doesn’t feel right. Can’t figure why, and it drives me crazy. On a bright side, RO’ s prices are not in my budget anyway.

    • SuperStrapper

      Better not let Simon see you talking like that of he’ll slap you with that massive internet peen of his.

  • IG

    I hate slightly rounded octagon bezels with fake screw heads.

    • Sheez Gagoo

      Semifake. Screws come in from the back into the “fake screws”, so they actually serve a purpose.

      • Only the slots serve no purpose.

        • commentator bob

          I can handle a decorative slot in a functional sleeve nut head.

          • SuperStrapper

            Many of the autismos here get heart palpatations over it, so tread lightly.

          • Moonraker

            At least we’re not also having the ol’ “bi-compax” back-and-forth.

          • SuperStrapper

            My personal favourite is probably the font vs typeface rant.

            It’s like our own little rule 34: if it exists, there is an argument of it. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ba0dec5d5258fbb868fa29c036cd1a4309c7fe5f796f0dc4304a448cfbe683b7.gif

          • Moonraker

            I like to know the differences between things so I actually want to know what compax, bi-compax, tri-compax, no-compax, font, typeface, etc. mean, I just don’t have the patience for never-ending (and repetitive) internet arguing.

          • SuperStrapper

            Knowing the difference and weaponising information in what is supposed to be a casual conversation are 2 very different things. Everyone knows what bi-compax refers to, and even though I know what it means I have no qualms about it’s usual ‘improper’ use, because it’s a discussion and not a thesis.

          • Moonraker

            Looking up the font/typeface thing. Yikes.

          • SuperStrapper

            Clip vs. Mag is how you identify greens.

          • Yes; but how do you identify the caliber of greens?

          • SuperStrapper

            The only greentips I’ve ever fired were .223.

            I powder coat my own .303 and .444 casts but have never tried green… methinks I should brew up some zombie killers.

          • Good point.

          • Berndt Norten

            I like my greens cut short, super fast

          • Moonraker

            Spinach?

          • Berndt Norten

            Fescue

        • David Bredan

          Here we go again 😉

          • Sheez Gagoo

            Obviously a controversal topic.

          • I hope not……..

        • Berndt Norten

          Too bad Al Goldstein is dead and Screw is defunct.

        • Moonraker

          Their purpose is to provide a sense of flow and look like they align for people who have enough of an eye for detail to notice that, but not quite enough of an eye for detail to notice that you can’t turn a hex screw. And I never understood why they didn’t go with octagonal screws.

      • IG

        I hate slightly rounded octagon bezels with fake or semi-fake screw heads.

        • Sheez Gagoo

          Ok

      • Berndt Norten

        Screw that.!!!

    • kramdrallim

      I’ve gotta agree with that, I am wearing a Victorinox Inox right now that I reckon, the case looks as good or better without any evidence of screws real or fake. Now if it had that dial face…..

    • Yan Fin

      Screw the screws!

      • Berndt Norten

        Bust the busters screw the feeders make the healers feel the way I feel.

  • commentator bob

    Why would anyone get an ugly Hublot knock-off of this watch instead of this watch? I do prefer the more purist time and date version of this watch, although not the one without a seconds hand.

    • kramdrallim

      Because…Hublot do it better, using cooler materials,and where I am,it can be had cheaper,and still give me the same cred,when it’s spotted by those who are interested in watches…bla bla however, I do think that dial ,with its texture, in all its intricacies, is the shit .

    • SuperStrapper

      Hublot is an AP knockoff now?

      • commentator bob

        Since 1980.

        • SuperStrapper

          Lol, sure kid.

          • commentator bob

            Grown up with the “kid” crap, its pathetic even by this site’s standards.

            Hublot took the portal bezel with exposed screws design from the Royal Oak, made it look worse, and then put it on a cheap rubber strap to save money.

            Even Hublot fans like kramdrallim below admit that Hublot is a knock-off, but like the “interesting” colors and materials Hublot offers. It’s kind of like how Invicta knocks-off Rolex designs just close enough not to get sued, but offers “interesting” colors and materials that Rolex does not.

          • SuperStrapper

            Right on kid.

  • commentator bob

    To resolve once and for all how the screws in the bezel are received by the sleeve nuts in the caseback (these are the actual Royal Oak parts): https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/06fce8af9004530e31735c6f900244e34f374e544dc6a06dd65a9dad6b0bed07.jpg

  • b-spain

    This is one of the nicer iterations of this horribly bloated 41mm RO. When in doubt just add extra space next to the sub-dials and voilà, people take it as though you made an effort. It’s the nicest bracelet around at this or any price point – but also the crappiest movement at this or any price point.

  • Raymond Wilkie

    I really hate this crappy brand. ,……………………that’s it really.

    *Clunk™

  • SuperStrapper

    This certainly ranks among my favourite iterations of the RO chrono. I would want the display back they have previously employed, and if likely prefer this without any date complication. A Grande date uber 12 would be nice, but then where was logo? The chrono layout really works nicely with the redacted sub seconds dial (Ok, the chrono registers grew: same difference) and the dial markers looks fine. I doubt I would have noticed they have increased in size if Zach didn’t point it out.

    Is this a new dial material/style? I am asmiddely not a AP follower/fanboy but the textile-like appearance under the Tapisserie waffling doesnt look familiar?

  • Berndt Norten

    This watch is close to perfect. I do find the pushers detract from the overall masculine beauty and fearless symmetry. Piguet Piguet burning bright, play me KRAVITZ through the night! Wait… I could have this classic beauty for 24k or the KRAVITZ DESIGN for 37k? Decisions, decisions…..

    • Yan Fin

      KRAVITZ DESIGN!!!

    • commentator bob

      You do get a $10 eBay Bund strap with the Kravitz.

  • I like it. Nice variation without disturbing the basic aesthetic too much.

  • Gorgeous chronograph. Give me that and a Datograph and I would be fine as long as I also had a duometre, Datograph, Centigraphe, Breguet 7077, and a 5370. But that’s it. 1815 flyback too.

    • SuperStrapper

      You’re so much more restrained than I.

  • Berndt Norten

    It’s the end of civilization as we know it (I don’t feel fine).

    To wit:

    KRAVITZ DESIGN DESTROYS ROLEX, charges 37k for their vandalism

    Fat Joe’s new video, “So Excited”

    Can we sink much lower?

  • Sheez Gagoo

    MAARIUUS! MAARIUUS!

  • TrevorXM

    There! That’s a LOT better. No more fake screws. A hell of a nice watch without that 1970’s nonsense. Sort of like cars with fake air scoops. But now it’s fixed.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e1308decfc0b40d6dc5d20494e98ef9b8c88590817f5def7e61f675b3ff3cb64.jpg

    • Raymond Wilkie

      I know it’s their thing, but what about no nuts ?

      • DanW94

        You mean the Royal Oak Eunuch Limited Edition? A complimentary empty carrying sack is included in the packaging.

        • Raymond Wilkie

          I think you’r suffering from double entente disease. Would it look something like this ?

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/de4580721a6f99c5559bf796dafb41b5d23e6362bebf5cf7e8328f5e86624980.jpg

          • Moonraker

            Cool bag. Is it ostrich? Musta been expensive.

          • TrevorXM

            I blocked three or four really annoying users on here and it instantly improved my experience dramatically. There’s big swaths of “This user is blocked” taking the place of inane and idiotic nonsense in each of these comment sections after the articles and most of what is left is clever wit (Berndt, Sheez, Dinkee) and intelligent opinions (Marius, Carson). And now there’s three wonderful “This user is blocked” before Moonraker’s post, in place of monkey chatter. However I am curious about this ostrich purse. Could somebody post the picture?

          • Moonraker

            So you blocked Raymond. But you blocked Dan?? Or did you block me? Anyway, here goes (courtesy of Raymond): https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/865b2c44b590d3267a7945c07211d4bda0c69aae3eca8ff677cc2b7834800ed5.jpg

          • TrevorXM

            Why would anybody block you? I would like to thank you for that picture, but that’s really unpleasant.

          • Raymond Wilkie

            Oh , am i blocked ?

          • Moonraker

            I haven’t blocked you, Raymond. I can see your comments in all of their clunking™ fury.

          • Raymond Wilkie

            I wouldn’t block anyone

          • Moonraker

            Sorry I reposted your bawbag, Raymond. I didn’t mean to cause any consternation.

          • DanW94

            Trev, you probably don’t realize how much like a 12 year old girl you sound like so I’ll explain it to you. You complain about people posting “monkey chatter” as you call and you block them which is your right. But then you catch wind of one of those monkey chatter conversations you’re not privy to and your texting your bestie Sarah or Jennifer and begging them to tell you what was said. You’re pathetic dude. Grow up.

          • Moonraker

            I don’t get why anyone would block you. You’re probably the least block-worthy guy on this site (Berndt was close until he went full-Kravitz :)). I’m definitely more block-worthy than you – I know my schtick probably annoys some people here. I personally don’t like blocking, it’s not my thing (although I recently considered it for Yojimbo), but I guess it is someone’s right to do it.

          • TrevorXM

            I blocked Dan by accident and can’t unblock him. I have nothing against Dan.

            edit: I just figured out how to unblock him.

          • TrevorXM

            Ah, I just read his post. I’m blocking Dan again.

          • Moonraker

            He’s a really good guy, can you unblock again? We all get into it now and then, no big deal, let’s just call it a misunderstanding.

          • TrevorXM

            Anybody who would get that upset over being blocked by one user on a blog comment board isn’t somebody who should be unblocked. That would be the day that I would give a damn if somebody “blocked” me.

            This blocking thing is great. It’s the next best thing to being an iron-fisted moderator. It’s tailoring my experience on ABTW into a more positive one. So much so that I’ve added ABTW to my bookmark page and will be back to reading daily again. I would highly recommend it to anybody. Don’t feel bad about blocking people, everybody! Annoyed by the toad-troll or the racist or tiresome simpletons who feel they have to comment on everything? Just block them! They are removed and only the good stuff and people stay. It’s awesome!

          • Moonraker

            I think you’ve overplayed your hand. I used to think that Marius was H.O. Dinkee, but now I’m pretty sure that you are H.O. Dinkee. That being said, I have no problem with you or your alter-ego Dinkee or with having two accounts. I too have a second account, under my real name, in case a giveaway ever strikes my fancy. I apologize in advance if I’m wrong, but I don’t think I’m wrong. If I don’t hear back from you or end up getting blocked I’ll take that as confirmation.

          • Phil leavell

            ? don’t get blog

          • Berndt Norten

            Enough already with the references to 19th century European geopolitics

          • Word Merchant

            As expected, Hublot have finally taken their ‘gummy croc’ concept further than even footballers would wish to go.

    • TrevorXM

      I’m looking at the back of the watch now and realize that not only do the bolt heads on the front need to be “honest” as I’ve touched them up, but also the back (where the actual screws — female or Chicago screws, that is — actually reside) requires either a display or a much more attractive design. That really dated 1970’s logo needs to go.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d541b839e26e262f87f93877728444afb1dc2957f1fb9568f21ba3a275cfad76.jpg

  • Sheez Gagoo

    Marius would have loved this watch ahd then mentioned a few problems he has with it and found a connection with his beloved ladyboys. 🙁

    • Raymond Wilkie

      3 points , no more, no less.

  • WINKS

    Underwhelming and bizarre update, messing with the dial symmetry of the previous version.

  • WatchNeophyte

    I liked the original Royal Oaks, but come on….you think they can come up with something new and different than the Royal Oak? No ingenuity, no originality….just the same ole sh$t! Come on Audemars…show some creativity!

    • Phil leavell

      This is truly a new design and innovative concept for AP.
      Richter who works at AP in the design Department heads up the geriatric division woke up about a year ago and stared down at the face of a chronograph. And uttered these now Infamous words ” Mine got I can’t read it the numbers are too little “. After months of scratching her head and redesign this is a wondrous new watch they brought fourth. Attacked on a couple Grand and Wallah.
      Now of course if he had a just put on as bifocals we would have been saved all this article Wallah. I personally would have left out the fake screws LOL
      PS Marius call home

    • commentator bob

      The watch is prefect, so what do you want changed? The one complaint from the people that can afford this watch is that it scratches too easily. AP is trying to fix that by rolling out ceramic versions, but it would be interesting to know if tegimented steel would work, or if it is incompatible with the mix of polished and brushed finishing the watch uses.

      There is the Offshore line for people that want their watches to be on fleek because yolo.

      • Moonraker

        Great last sentence.

  • Marius

    Although my favourite Royal Oak has always been the 15202 Ultra Thin (with the blue dial, and the fantastic 2120 movement), I have to say that this chronograph is a very interesting offer from Audemars Piguet.

    From a pricing perspective, this watch has a somewhat “acceptable” price. Granted, $24,000 represents a lot of money, but the Royal Oak`s main competitors i.e. the Vacheron Overseas and the Patek Nautilus cost around $40,000, so they’re almost TWICE as expensive. In fact, even the Hubloter Bingo Bango costs over $25,000, and that’s a knock-off watch with a rather mediocre fit&finish &attention to detail. So overall, $24,000 is a competitive price in this high-end segment.

    From a technical perspective, the 2385 caliber is a very good movement. Granted, it’s not an AP in-house caliber; in reality it’s the F. Piguet 1185. However, the Piguet 1185 is a great chronograph movement featuring a vertical clutch/column wheel; a very smooth actuation (I would say that it’s almost as smooth as the Datograph); and a very thin profile. What’s more, this movement has been extensively used by other high-end brands such as Vacheron, Breguet, and Blancpain, so we’re not talking about your average 7750. What I would like to point out is that one shouldn’t confuse this caliber with the other chronograph movement used by AP, namely the in-house 3120 fitted with a Dubois&Depraz chronograph module on top. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/762605d4f72eb78989781d387c6d5cb33a1a4a754a7557116d13dbdf3f6e6acf.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9de8d0d4866b7fdabfb85962be299fb993815de397f102d767331ca562665ceb.jpg

    My only problem with this reference would be the dial. More specifically, I don’t like the blue outer seconds chapter. It distracts your attention from the great tapisserie dial, and personally, I would have opted for a full tapisserie dial. As is, the dial of this Royal Oak reminds me a bit of the Omega Speedmaster CK 2998 limited edition. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/aec57d0a4f1cbdd8c928a7de19f88f42020386a517b4998bf19c08bc9f7f0566.jpg

    • Berndt Norten

      You’re back!

      • Marius

        I didn’t manage to post any comments over the last few days as I had a rather busy week. You see, I’m re-decorating my apartament in Monte Carlo, and I’m also planning my yearly holiday in Portugal. Anyway, me and my beautiful Thai ladyboy salute you from our little vacation house in Menton. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7fc6891a17794e0b484a81239d31bfe1ad2a51adc487bcaf5232819fb1d76b31.jpg

        • Moonraker

          upvote just for the picture, ladyboy or not

        • TrevorXM

          Hmmm… puzzling…

        • WINKS

          Pre-op?

        • Mark1884

          YES!!……. Living the life!

        • JosephWelke

          Great dog!

        • Word Merchant

          I’m re-decorating my apartament in Monte Carlo…

          By all that’s sacred in the world, I hope you mean ‘I am having my apartment redecorated…’

          No-one should ever feel pressured into painting walls. And I’m convinced that the act of hanging wallpaper is actually outlawed by the Geneva Convention. The thought of decorating leaves me reeling and faint. I’ll go and take a small sit-down with a thimble or two of gin until I get confirmation that you have correctly sought outside help.

    • Moonraker

      So the 3120 with the module is what they use in the Offshore chronograph? That’s why the date looks like it’s down a well?

      • Marius

        Exactly, the Offshores use the 3120 with the Dubois&Depraz chronograph module, whilst the Royal Oak Chronographs use the F. Piguet caliber because it’s much thinner.

        In fact, the interesting aspect about this caliber is that in order to spot the difference between a genuine AP Offshore and a fake, you have to look at the date. The genuine Offshore has a date which, as you rightly pointed out, looks like it’s down a well. On the other hand, most fakes have a date wheel that is perfectly visible. So, if you’re looking at an Offshore with a perfectly aligned and fully visible date indicator, it’s most likely a fake or a Hublot Big Bang, which is pretty much one and the same thing.

        • Moonraker

          Is there also a difference in how the pushers line up (or don’t line up) with the crown?

          • Marius

            Not that I know of.

          • Moonraker

            So the pushers aren’t a little higher up than the crown on the AP with the module?

          • Marius

            That’s a very good question. Indeed, the chronograph pushers of the Royal Oak Offshores are positioned slightly higher than the crown. These watches use a modular chronograph caliber, so the 3120 base movement, and implicitly its crown, has to be positioned as low as possible, thus making space for the module (with its pushers). The Royal Oak Chronograph doesn’t have this problem as the Piguet 1185 is an integrated caliber, and the pushers & crown are perfectly aligned.

            Nevertheless, AP solves this alignment problem by using large pushers on most Offshore models, thereby hiding this slight inconsistency. The first picture shows an Offshore with normal pushers (where you can see that the crown sits slightly lower than the chrono pushers), while the second picture shows an Offshore with the larger pushers that “hide” it.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a92e741163d81bddade2ea6adedfce9315bbc903b65d40f2c67a1768ef62c4a2.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bd21d2e88554e59df3b7d9ff0300c7333f684948067ab9709a22308486a827c2.jpg

          • Berndt Norten

            Normally the Crown lines the pushers up, Usual Suspects style?

    • Lurch

      You should be running your own watch blog. You would wipe the floor with ABTW. There – I said what everyone wanted to say. Now I am done posting on here for fear I am contributing to a hostile and unwelcoming environment.

      • TrevorXM

        Often the only thing I read on an article is a post by Marius.

        • Mikita

          Sometimes when I have few time I just scroll down to the post of Marius and I’ll know all that I need about the watch and options and some Thai ladyboys as well 🙂

    • Shinytoys

      I have to say that originally many months ago found your comments demeaning and harsh (and sometimes still do Marius), but your knowledge of Horology runs deep…)

    • Sheez Gagoo

      Welcome back!

    • Phil leavell

      Okay Marius you have brought me out of the closet. I would love to have the Royal Oaks Slimline stainless steel bracelet in my stable to it is truly iconic. And if things work out for me maybe I won’t be so damn cheap and I’ll buy it.

      • Moonraker

        He has that effect on people. Would you believe that a lot of the ladyboys he surrounds himself with were once just boys? And then they met Marius.

    • egznyc

      I appreciate the breadth of your insights but I don’t see the similarities between this AP and the CK2998. Sure, they’re both panda chronographs but that’s about it.

    • Berndt Norten

      He’s back with the Midas touch, encyclopedic command of the topic, and double digit upvotes. You da man

    • I knew it was difficult to hold it all in for so long Marius 🙂

  • Esteban

    I’ve gathered this is a very respected brand, with history and everything, but really: the watch is vulgar.

    Fake screws. Over sized pushers. A mess of a dial with that tiled, oh, sorry, tapisserie pattern and impossible to match subdials. An incredibly poor choice of a date window positioning. Invisible hands.

    In all fairness, it’s an ugly watch.

  • Shinytoys

    A lot to love for 25K…it’s a beautiful watch…

  • Raymond Wilkie

    Wee bit bored now,……………..just saying.

    • Phil leavell

      Just laid back Saturday snoozing . it you that posted the elephant sack bag and is it available in green

      • Moonraker
        • Phil leavell

          I apologize ostrich ,when I was looking for that clip yesterday I found two elephants one with his trunk where it shouldn’t have been. And then after that everything comes up elephants.

          • Moonraker

            OK, thanks for another disturbing window into your search history. 🙂

          • Raymond Wilkie

            Just for the record, it’s a human bawbag.
            ( Is that the most digressed statement on a watch blog ! )

          • Moonraker

            It looks like a chicken drumstick with straps.

  • Ian john horwood

    The chronograph dial looks bad
    ( period) for this watch at its high price. My first generation citizen calibre 2100 looks way far better than this catastrophe. It looks like one of citizen cheaper chronograph dials, go figure.

  • Berndt Norten

    My fellow ABTW devotees: I HAVE SINNED.

    LENNY KRAVITZ DRIVE ME AROUND THE BEND.

    PLEASE FORGIVE ME. NO, don’t.

    I hereby block myself.

    • Phil leavell

      Let it out let it all out Castaway the Lenny Thou shan’t be blocked
      May watches heal all.. me ABTW forgive you

    • Raymond Wilkie

      Don’t make any rash decisions. Sleep on it.

    • Moonraker

      Take it easier on the self-punishment. Considering how much kravitzing and kvetching you did, that block is probably just a wood chip now.

    • TrevorXM

      It was entertaining. I’d like to see more ABTW commenters lose their marbles like that once in a while.

      • Phil leavell

        ???
        Sometimes a little kindness goes a very long way

        • Moonraker

          Don’t you know by now not to expect kindness from H.O. Dinkee, sorry, I meant Trevor? Dinkee…sorry, Trevor doesn’t like you. Got it? :):)

          • TrevorXM

            Now I’m confused by this comment, but I’ve blocked the fake druggie Phil so I guess I’ll never see what this was about.

            Thinking about it, I’m going to block this Moonraker clown, too. Seems to have a lot of weird issues based on how he’s reacted to me blocking a few people, and apparently he’s been sent warnings by moderators about previous issues? So I’ll just block him after I post this.

            I’d highly recommend blocking people who annoy you on this site. Including me if I annoy you. I don’t mind.

          • Moonraker

            To clarify for everyone who isn’t TrevorXM/Dinkee (they’re the same person), I posted a jokey photo of David Bredan with a drawn-on Fu Manchu moustache. ABTW/David contacted to let me know that it was a little rude. I apologized directly to David and removed the comment. The other time I was contacted was about goofy gifs that were removed because they were completely tangential to the discussion. (One of them was from Planes, Trains and Automobiles, another from Sherlock. One from Seinfeld. One from Premium Rush.) So those are my “previous issues”.

            If you look below you can see that I’ve accused Trevor of being Dinkee. Some of my further reasoning is on the recent Sisu winner page. I apologize to both of them if they turn out to be two separate guys. But now I’m blocked, eh? I guess I don’t blame him but I did say I had no problem with him/them and would only interpret a block as confirmation. You’re not helping your case, Trevor/Dinkee.

          • Phil leavell

            One would agree. I’m sure one of his many personas will eventually come to terms. Me myself and I is a big enough battle to fight let alone trying to be somebody else.
            When I figure out how to unblock dinkee I probably will I’m not the type to give up on anything there’s always hope

  • BNABOD

    do not like the bracelet I think it looks dated
    do not like the slanted date. B&R does it well and even though easier to read in that position it just looks off to me.
    Aside from the above two minor complains it looks pretty good overall.

  • Word Merchant

    I would be very happy to own one of these – either this version or the previous one. I’d prefer a round date window, but that’s about it. I haven’t really got any more to add to the discussion.

  • Ulysses31

    The panda dial is nice – shame about the rest. The bracelet takes me back to the Seventies (though I wasn’t around then) when you were confronted by ugly, angular links and other such monstrosities, and then there’s the general case design which, though it may be a plumber’s dream, just isn’t for me.

  • Moonraker

    TrevorXM = Dinkee, H.O.

    Have a good rest of the weekend!

  • Ranchracer

    I’m not sure if I dislike the Royal Oak because I can’t afford it, or if there’s some other reason. Would I like it if I could afford a twenty-five thousand dollar timepiece? No, even if I were wealthy I’m pretty sure I would still have actual taste, so guess that answers that. Really have no idea what the appeal of the Oak is, other than being the guy in the boardroom with the most expensive ugly watch. If there were someone in the room with a Richard Mille you wouldn’t even win THAT prize! ?

    • MEddie90

      You mean to tell me that if a watch was made by a less prestigious company using cheaper materials and without the laborious hand finishing or fine movement it’d sell for less? Surely you jest.

      The tldr of your comment basically boils down to “it’s too expensive for my pay grade and even if I could afford it I don’t like the design (I have good taste of course so by definition the RO must be ugly)”.

      • Only two words actually: sour grapes.
        But, it’s a free country 🙂

  • Yanko

    Buy Japanese. Swiss is boring.

  • A_watches

    this is a winner, what a great watch, expensive but not too expensive for what you get

  • A true classic for a reason: AP’s sticking with a “recognizable from a mile” design. The detractors of this design are similar with the ones clamoring for Porsche to change the 911’s shape and the ones who helped turn Jaguar’s XJ sedan series into a sort-of “Lexus-y/ Chrysler-y” looking thing.

  • Michael Brüggler

    Can anybody explain me how the screw on the bezel might turn… or is this a deco element?

    • otaking241

      My understanding is that the screw that you turn is itself on the back of the watch and the hex-shaped elements in the bezel remain stationary and hold the screw in place. The slot would seem to be the decorative element, in that case.

  • otaking241

    These “updates” seem like little more than an excuse to raise prices.

  • Pete L

    Well out of my price range but I love these, particularly the blue/silver sub dials version. Much less ‘in your face gangsta rapper/pro footballer’ and more classically understated than many AP’s. The bracelet is beautiful too.

    • Phil leavell

      A couple bucks every payday , stashed away won’t be long for you got some wrist candy

  • gw01

    WHAT A TIMELESS CLASSIC!!! This is the 911 of watches.

  • WiZARD

    WTF is that on the end of the second hand of the chrono? It is strange only for me?
    It was much nicer on the previous version.

  • SoItsMe

    The price is right for this.