Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver’s SBGH255 Watch Hands-On

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver’s SBGH255 Watch Hands-On

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 Watch Hands-On Hands-On

Baselworld has ushered in a season of dramatic change for Grand Seiko. Not only has the brand announced it will be presented as a separate brand from Seiko from 2017, it also is undergoing a rebrand of sorts – discontinuing all Grand Seiko watches in the collection as of February 2017 and replacing them with updated dial branding, interesting new finishes, and new price points. Amongst those riding atop the great Kanagawa wave of change is the reference SBGH255 Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's watch.

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 Watch Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 Watch Hands-On Hands-On

Technically, the SBGH255 - and its limited-edition blue companion ref. SBGH257 - is an entirely new reference with an entirely new case, but the design should look familiar to any fans of the SBEX001 – a “standard” (albeit limited edition) Seiko in the Prospex collection, and the only one therein to use the same 9S Hi-Beat movement found in this Grand Seiko variant. However, what makes this particular watch special, is that it marks the first time that Grand Seiko has spec’d one of its saturation divers with a fully mechanical movement, having already offered divers equipped with both 9F quartz and 9R Spring Drive movements.

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 Watch Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 Watch Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 Watch Hands-On Hands-On

Anyone familiar with the SBEX001 or Grand Seiko’s excellent Spring Drive divers already knows without looking at the official measurements that the Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 is going to be a large watch. And it is. Planet-sized even. At a hulking 46.9mm by 17mm thick, it shirks the steadily growing trend of smaller watches and unapologetically goes in the opposite direction. But at the same time, the dimensions don’t overwhelm once it’s on the wrist, unlike the SBEX001, which wore long and tall. The SBGH255 owes its surprisingly comfortable fit to the high-intensity titanium construction which keeps the weight down, and the case’s short, downward-curving lugs which hug the wrist with little overhang.

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 Watch Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 Watch Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 Watch Hands-On Hands-On

The case work itself is truly top-notch, and every bit deserving of the new Grand Seiko re-badging. Nowhere do we find the traditional flowing curves and lines typical of previous GS divers – instead, we’re treated to a series of sharply contrasting bevels and geometric angles each with their own zaratsu finishes and behavior in the light. The resulting effect is almost polygonal in a sense, yielding a series of opposing facets between the lugs and case body that flow with surprising ease into the bracelet and the grippy, angular teeth found on the bezel.

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 Watch Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 Watch Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 Watch Hands-On Hands-On

But even for all the interesting case work, the real star of the show on the Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 is the dial itself, which is made from pure iron to act as an anti-magnetic shield for the movement beneath. And in the past, while Grand Seiko’s divers have been more visually staid, this one features a tight, waffle-textured dial whose many squared rows and valleys play with the light in a way that reminds us a lot of Audemars Piguet’s Royal Oak tapisserie dials.

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 Watch Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 Watch Hands-On Hands-On

The texture provides a nice contrast to the luminous, mirror-polished indices (which can look black, or a contrasting silver depending on the angle) and cathedral-style handset – both of which are standard-issue to Grand Seiko’s dive collection. What makes this particular offering special though, is that Grand Seiko usually reserves its more interesting dial manufacture for dressier options like the SBGD001. It’s great to see new dial innovations coming to the Divers collection, because even if the resulting pattern isn’t for everyone, it’s a good hint at what Grand Seiko has in store for future dive watches.

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 Watch Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 Watch Hands-On Hands-On

Like the rest of Seiko’s high-end divers, the case is fitted with an L-shaped gasket that precludes the need for a helium release valve, and thus makes the watch suitable even for saturation diving. Inside, hums Seiko’s 9S85 high-beat movement, which is designed, assembled and adjusted at the Shizuku-Ishi Watch Studio, where all Grand Seiko mechanical watches come to life. Oscillating at ten beats per second, this 36,000vph caliber still manages an impressive 55-hour power reserve, and a claimed accuracy of +5 to -3 seconds per day. Grand Seiko’s Spring Drive movement accuracy and mesmerizing perfect sweeping seconds are both well-documented, but getting close to that kind of accuracy while replicating said sweep with a mechanical complication that routinely takes its toll on the longevity of the whole movement is no small feat.

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 Watch Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 Watch Hands-On Hands-On

Both the Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 Professional 600m Diver's SBGH255 and the limited-edition SBGH257 blue edition will be available in August 2017, with a starting price of $9,600 for the standard black dial with gold accents, and $9,800 for the blue dial. grand-seiko.com

What do you think?
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  • Luciano

    They look great, but at $10k they are off the price territory for a GS.

    • ??????

      Why? New Rolex Seadweller is $2k more expensive at 10.8k and has low beat movement and much simpler dial finish. I think new GS divers aren’t for everybody, but still offer good value.

      • I’d rather have a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms Bathyscaphe for $10K which also has a high beat movement.

        • Mark1884

          I wholeheartedly concur!!

        • I’d rather have one of the new Mil-Spec’s.

        • Marius

          I don’t think that the three-hander Bathyscaphe has a high beat movement. The only 5Hz Fifty Fathoms is the Bathyscaphe Flyback Chronograph with the F385 caliber, and that watch retails for around $15,000.

        • Gokart Mozart

          I will go for the left field choice. As I don’t swim and do not need (like) almost all rotating bezels, my weapon of choice is the Vulcain Nautical Heritage with the a really loud alarm and enough money left over to buy another $5K watch.

          Agree the finish may not be in the same league but this watch will have me continually smiling and checking the time and setting the alarm several times a day.

          http://www.vulcain-watches.ch/img/bgpages/collection_100152.080L.jpg

        • ??????

          GS are (almost) never sold at full MSRP. And I don’t think you are talking of MSRP regarding BFF.

      • Marius

        You are absolutely right about the Rolex Seadweller. Nevertheless, I would view Rolex as an exception. To me, a Rolex watch has always been more of a prestige item and status symbol than an actual timepiece. In fact, Rolex is the most famous luxury brand in the world. It’s true that they manufacture good watches, but it’s also true that most are bought as statement pieces, so what Rolex lacks in finish, it more than makes up in prestige and recognition.

        • ??????

          True, cannot argue with that. GS is more a watch-nerd thing

  • ??????

    What a huge block of sharp finely finished metal! 🙂 While I personally prefer smaller watches, I admit the level of finish is among the absolutely best examples in dive watch segment. The waffle-patterned soft iron dial is simply wonderful. I would have chosen the dark blue version, but what bothers me – why couldn’t they fit it with similar dark blue bezel insert? No blue ceramics at GS? Anyway, these watches are in the niche of their own due to both huge size (tool watch nature) and rare high beat 36,000 bph movement combined with supreme level of construction and finish.

    • I was trying to find in the article, is the bezel ceramic?

    • Yep, a blue bezel would have gone nicely with the blue dial. And the black dialed reference could do without the lower text being orange or gold or whatever color it is. A simple silver like the GS above it would have been better.

      • ??????

        Absolutely agree.

    • Sevenmack

      The lack of blue ceramic isn’t a problem for me. The lack of more-refinement in the bezel markings similar to that of the Breitling Superocean Heritage and Stowa Seatime, however, is a problem. Get rid of the numbers, refine the markers, and suddenly, you have a gorgeous watch.

      That said, this Grand Seiko will find some buyers.

      • ??????

        Personally, I think that very few watches succeed having different colors of dial and bezel. Tudor BB may be one of them. Anyway, I do agree that these bezels would look better without numbers, but many wouldn’t agree with us on that..

  • Titus

    De gustibus no es disputandum, but I just don’t get Grand Seiko watches. While they may be technically impressive, their design is just soulless if not to say cheap . I want my watches to do something for me, not just be ok. I can’t ever picture myself spending (a lot of money) on one of these. Maybe there’s hope for this brand now that they are being spun off. I suggest changing the brand’s logo at once. Who are they trying to appel to? Fans of heavy metal? The SS?

  • ProJ

    Okay, so.. top notch case and dial finishing, top notch movement, but… why… why does it HAVE to be that big AND thick? Why not make it in the territory of 41-43mm, which is already big enough.

    • ProJ

      On another note, an article about a dive watch without lume shots is an incomplete article.

      • christosL

        Without resorting to using a helium valve, a 600m watch probably must be this big.

        • ProJ

          No. The DSSD is rated deeper, has a helium valve and is actually smaller.

          • christosL

            Uh yeah that’s my point. A watch using a helium valve can be made smaller. The GS here needs to be beefy because Seiko don’t use the helium valve.

          • ProJ

            I see now. Sorry missed your point.

          • christosL

            No worries at all

  • Word Merchant

    Dear Seiko, seeing as you probably aren’t going to change the GS logo and font, for the love of God, please hire a new bracelet designer from this century now!

  • A_watches

    we have the seiko monster, this is the godzilla! if i was super wealthy I would buy one for fun

  • The Deplorable Boogur T. Wang

    Excellent write-up! Thank you Mr. Pina.
    In the words of a compadre – “Now Thats’ a WATCH I want!”

    • Always a pleasure Mr. DBTW 😉

  • riposte

    I agree, Seiko should have new GS 200m diver’s watch with 40-42mm diameter. This one is TOO BIG.

  • Bill Davidson

    Looks like a Toyota Levin Seca Corolla Hybrid by Lexus aka Rolex, Audemars, Omega and Jello-O.

  • SuperStrapper

    I’m not sure why I would choose this over a spring drive-driven variant. Hi-beat movements are cool, but SD I think is more exclusive and special.

  • BNABOD

    I like the blue dial but it is too big for me. Price wise you get a lot for the dough but GS is due for a serious bracelet upgrade. It is the same one as the MM300 w better finishing and while the clasp works wonders it is not subdtle. At least it is sporty looking and not sterile as is 90% of their offerings. Great dial. Keep at it and shrink that puppy will you.

  • Andrew Buckley

    Blue tapisserie dial? Tick. Rest of watch? No, no, no…

  • IG

    Yawn.™

  • Mischa

    I’ve no problem with the bracelet. But yes, I’d rather invest on a more exclusive spring-drive version. It also maybe truly is a bit too big?

  • TheChuphta

    There’s a lot here to not hate, but I have to wonder (given its size and cost) who is going to actually buy this watch?

  • Raymond Wilkie

    Where did the last sponsored post go ? . See if you can work this out ……

    NABDW !

    • Mark1884

      I hate to say it……… but I am starting to understand you Ray
      Do I win a prize??

      • Raymond Wilkie

        So what does it mean ? : )

        • Mark1884

          Not Another Boring Dive Watch!!

          Oh my God….. I understand Ray-Speak!

          • Raymond Wilkie

            Well done ,……………give yourself 10 points and 2 free uses of the word Clunk™

          • Mark1884

            I accept this award on behalf of all the watch geeks, that could not be with us today.
            I will use the “C” words with discretion and respect.

          • Gokart Mozart

            The $64 question, does this warrant use of the c word?

          • Mark1884

            In my opinion, it does warrant a “C” word.
            But, I only have two of them and must use wisely!
            I am sure that there will be a watch worse than this one (maybe) to use them on.

    • Gokart Mozart

      They should probably change the name to A blog to dive watch.

  • DanW94

    Man, another one. Don’t throw a rock in the ocean, you’re bound to plunk a diver judging by the sheer number of dive watches out there. I wonder if that helium escape valve can detect market saturation?

  • Omegaboy

    The case design is meant for another watch, not this one. Everything on the dial says ’round’. The case says ‘angles’. Incongruent.

  • Mark1884

    Where to start……I will say that I am not a fan of Seiko ( ok fan boys, get the pitchforks and torches out) unless it is like the 1980’s quartz watch I bought for my father. That one was ok.
    The new generation of Seiko GS that is trying to compete with Big Swiss, does absolutely nothing for me….. Nothing! I know, a watch for every wrist….. so wear yours in good health.

    Here we go: The blue dial MUST have a blue ceramic bezel. Like the cathedral handset, but take the tail off of the min hand. Dial texture is ok. The angular faceted lugs are making me nauseous, please round them out. Why is this thing wearing an Omega Speedmaster bracelet?? Just too big. Not impressed by the movement.
    And finally………..How much is this SS watch??? Is that not the price of a new Submariner??
    Easy decision for me.

    • ??????

      The watch is made from GS proprietary high-intensity titanium. Its more scratch resistant than ordinary or even grade 5 titanium. Moreover – how many other titanium watches you’ve seen have such level of finish? Zaratsu mirror + ideal hand brush.
      Submariner is just a default boring choice imo. Any non-watch person would get a Submariner on his X-year job anniversary (if he can).

      • Mark1884

        I stand corrected, should have said Ti, not SS

        You can have the most beautiful finish and detail on this GS, but it is still just a Seiko. When GS becomes the most well known watch on the planet… then they can ask Rolex prices.
        My opinion is that this is just an ugly watch, with an unrealistic price.

        As I stated earlier: A watch for every wrist, wear yours in good health

        • Gokart Mozart

          I don’t see why being the best known wrist watches means that you should charge so much for a mass produced watch with massive economies of scale.

          Doesn’t mean it is the best either, and why follow the crowd.

          • Mark1884

            I was careful to not call Rolex the “best” watch, only the most recognized watch in the world.

            I am not here to laud the Rolex watch. I use them as a yardstick to measure against. With the Rolex name, reputation, longevity and undeniable success….. I find Seiko arrogant for pricing their product in the Rolex tier or higher.
            Yes Rolex is mass produced. Their manufacturing process is fascinating.
            I don’t know of any other manufacturer that goes to the lengths as Rolex does, to keep virtually every component made in house.

            This is just my opinion. I understand that others think differently, and that is fine.

          • christosL

            Nobody is more in-house than Seiko, GS in particular.

          • Mark1884

            I can not agree with that. Does Seiko have it’s own foundry?? Just one example.

  • Phil leavell

    I like the look find the overall size too big. Now if I were to leave it on my nightstand it would be a little small but okay. The upside is when I did where I could say “LOOK AT MY WATCH
    ” without uttering a word just a simple turn the rest. As far as the pricing goes it is overpriced by keeping it around 5/6 k more middle-income earner would buy it .Then again I wouldn’t buy Rolex because I think it’s overpriced for what it is let’s face it this is just a fashion Diver’s watch not a Workhorse , love good tuna ! I don’t have a nice dive in my collection if this was a little cheaper & a little smaller I would buy it !

  • Word Merchant

    What happened to the Christopher Ward Jumping Hours watch review – it’s vanished…

    • Lincolnshire Poacher

      The truth is out there……

    • Mark1884

      A conspiracy against CW…?
      That jumping hour was nice.

    • DanW94

      It’s like it jumped right off the page…(groan…)

      • BILL

        Adams jumped the gun.

    • Joel Schumann

      Cristian Ward pulled the check?

    • Marius
    • Sometimes a post covers a watch which is embargoed until a certain date (the manufacture’s release date) and the wrong publication date gets entered into the ABTW system so out it goes ahead of time. Perhaps that happened with the CW Jumping Hour watch and it is now rescheduled for the correct date. Just guessing but I do know a little of how the system works here.

      • Word Merchant

        If that really is the case then the folks at CW need to climb out of their own a-holes and stop being such snowflakes. But thanks for the explanation.

        • I think that’s a bit harsh. Brands often give advance info on pending product releases so media such as ABTW can prepare and have a review timed to the release date. This was likely an ABTW schedule error and had nothing to do with CW (meaning they probably did not complain – but if they did, they were right to do so). Cheers.

      • BILL

        I still won’t like it whenever it comes around again.

  • Joel Schumann

    As usual, Seiko – or is it Grand Seiko now, I didn’t read their latest memo on branding strategy – present us with a studio in mismatching elements: We have a massive case with nothing but sharp angles, blue dial dolled up with the waffle iron and paired with a high gloss black bezel, but still looking desperately lost in that massive block of steel. Add hands designed to absolutely not look like anything else. Finally, make sure the bracelet is too narrow to match the case visually!

  • Lincolnshire Poacher

    I’m generally not a large watch wearer, though I do wear a Tuna for fun on the rotation. But I love Seiko divers, including this one.
    I love the waffle dial. I love the samurai angles case. Personally I find it all works.
    My main gripe is that with the rebrand, all their watches seem too have jumped 25-50% more in price, from what they would have been.

  • Middle

    if you make the effort to put a design on the caseback….why make it so small? you have the whole surface to use

  • So Seiko’s answer to the new Seadweller was to make…an ugly Seadweller? And at such a bargain price too.

  • otaking241

    I forgave GS their budget-grade clasp (same stamped piece as used on the MM and other non-GS watches) on the old Spring Drive Diver because it was priced in the $5-6K range and was otherwise pretty fantastic. If they’re going to start charging $10K for their watches they will need to come up with a clasp that rivals the Rolex Glidelock–it’s embarrassing to have such a cheap-looking element on such a high-end watch.

  • Marius

    Although I’m not a fan of divers, I quite like this watch, and I would wear one. Nevertheless, I have two big problems with it.

    Firstly, to me, this is the first Grand Seiko that doesn’t quite justify its price. The 9S85 is a very good high-beat in-house movement, but its finish and decoration is not quite at the level of JLC or Blancpain. The case and bracelet are obviously highly-finished, but I can’t really say that they are infinitely better than the Swiss & German counterparts, and, on top of that, I find the design a bit dated and heavy-looking. Also, as far as I know, the GS bracelet is of a lower quality than Rolex and Glashutte Original bracelets — especially if you look at the Glide-Lock system.The dial has the characteristic Grand Seiko level of finish, but the hands are rather comical, and the tapisserie dial is a bit too Audemars Piquet-esque for me.

    Secondly, this GS is actually more expensive than most of its Swiss rivals. As Mark1884 noted, a Rolex Submariner is almost $1,500 CHEAPER than this GS. Furthermore, an Omega Planet Ocean with a steel bracelet, and the new Master movements is almost $3,400 CHEAPER; the JLC DeepSea chronograph has the same price, but keep in mind that it’s a chrono, not a time-only; and the Blancpain 50 Fathoms Bathyscaphe is also slightly cheaper. Now I know that the Grand Seiko is a high-quality watch, but at these prices I would always opt for a more prestigious Swiss or German watch.

    • ??????

      Are you talking of MSRP? I don’t think GS would go at full MSRP

    • TrevorXM

      “…a Rolex Submariner is almost $1,500 CHEAPER than this GS.”

      Kind of ends the argument for this watch. It should be $1500 cheaper than the Rolex. Then they’d really have a case.

  • Jonathan Smith

    My my, this thing is massive!

    • Gokart Mozart

      I take it you are talking about the watch?

      • BILL

        No, just at the urinal talking to myself. 🙂

  • Pete L

    I like it but even for me this is a big bit of kit. Also way too much money in an overcrowded sector where you can get a lot for this sort of dough. If money were no object then would love to add to a collection but just couldn’t justify it at this price otherwise.

  • TrevorXM

    Somehow I like these Grand Seikos better now that they don’t have the simple SEIKO logo on the dial. When I see that name and that font all I can think of are generic strip mall watch stores and gold-plated quartz. Putting it as Grand Seiko with that font removes it from that a bit more. That is important in a luxury item like this is aiming to be.

    • Allan

      Yes, agree completely. Just wished they had changed the fat, ugly hour hand. That really ruins the whole face for me. It looks so out of place with the minute hand IMO. Maybe just me.

  • Gokart Mozart

    Not being a GS fan have they raised the price 20 odd percent on all watches. Does that even include the current models, obviously less the Seiko Grand Seiko models that have not been sold which I assume will be sold at the old price?

    Have they improved the movements or finishing or are they the same?

  • Ross Diljohn

    I love dive watches and own a few. I would not buy this watch. The design is horrible.

    • I think it is a quality watch hiding in what I agree is not such a great design.

  • Lawrence

    Nice but Not 10K nice.

  • Yanko

    Nice watch. But 10K? And it is time for Seiko to come up with a new bracelet.

  • Ricardo Cabza

    Nice watch, for about $3,500

  • HectorAsuipe

    If I were in the market for something like a Sea Dweller, this might win. But I am not in the market for a Sea Dweller. Not the worst think I have seen from Grand Seiko, but far from the best. A special bracelet and nicer hands would go some ways to make it work better.

  • Allan

    I like seeing the Grand Seiko pride of place at the top of the watch face. Its such an iconic range and one that a lot of ‘swiss watch purists’ overlook. My friend owns a SBGA029G and the accuracy of time keeping absolutely destroys a Deep Sea (which I own). For some people thats not really important, but when you study the second hand moving so smoothly on the Grand Seiko its quite hypnotic.

    One of the most underrated and overlooked watches really, which I think is pretty much down to the snob factor. My friends Grand Seiko is probably one of the best watches ive seen, and yet I have never bought one. That says something negative about me I guess, but perhaps later this year.

    • I always really struggled with the GS Diver hour hand too, but if you look closely – it’s sort of re-interpretation of both a Mercedes and a Cathedral hand, which I think is sorta neat.

      • Allan

        Yeah i see what you mean Zach. But the hour hand fits in behind the minute hand so badly, at certain locations it looks off placement.

        I have a Grand Seiko and its a daily wear watch for me, but the sad thing is, I had considered flipping it now to buy one of these new models, but you get very little for a second hand Grand Seiko, unlike a Rolex – so you end up either losing a fortune, or just keeping it. To make matters worse, the UK dealers for the new Grand Seiko sports models have them on list for £10,000-£15,000. I am sorry, no matter how good the movement, I just won’t spend that. I didn’t even spend that on my Rolex Deep Sea, and I could flip it now and get all my money back. Its a problem for Seiko – their public perception is still seen by many as a ‘cheap £200 watch’. I like the idea of them moving away from ‘SEIKO’ on the dial, into a new brand almost, but whether it actually works long term remains to be seen.

        I adore their engineering and movement work, but I think the new prices are silly. They just don’t have the prestige that a brand like Rolex have (and can get away with). Such a shame, but ill keep my older Grand Seiko, mainly because the only way to get rid of it for an upgrade is to lose a fortune. Will keep my eye on the second hand market in the coming years.

    • Keith Sandford

      My SD4K is roughly 1 sec fast per week on the wrist.

  • Mr. Snrub

    Nice dial.
    Boring design. Aspirational pricing.
    Never cared for the pope-hat hour-hand.

  • Chemistman

    Beautiful watch, but size wise this is a hard pill to swallow….

  • Shinytoys

    Superb watch! Excellent unbiased review. Thanks Zach Pina…cheers mate.

  • Sheez Gagoo

    Like almost all Grand Seikos I love this one.

  • Allen Cloutier

    I’m afraid I have to say that it is waaay too expensive. I like the watch. I have been interested in the GS because it was a high quality watch at a relatively reasonable price. I wish Seiko luck with the new Rolex pricing

  • Kurt Klimisch

    Case finishing has got to be at the bottom of my list for reasons to purchase a watch. I wear a watch and guess what the case finishing looks like in a year – not good. I buy based on dial, hands and movement. The fact that so much of the “value” of a GS is wrapped up in the excellent case finishing – which will get destroyed in less than a year of daily use gives me pause.

    • Allan

      Actually I would argue if the case finishing is good, that in a year it still looks good. I know Rolex get a lot of stick over their marketing budget and prices, but their steel watches for instance, even after 5-10 years they still look great. I would argue that the higher end Grand Seikos have a high level of finishing so will last pretty well too. I just can’t get over their hands on these sports watches, they are so big, ugly and ruin the whole appearance for me. The fact the hour and the minute hand look like they were taken from two different watches is just the icing on the cake for me. I would buy a GS for around 3-4k, but I have seen preorders for some of these new models in the UK for £10,000-£15,000. I am sure by Rolex prices they are worth the money (if you base the cost on the movement for instance), but the huge downside is that if you ever want to sell a SEIKO GS a year or 2 later if your financial situation changes, you take a massive hit. With a Rolex, if you stick to the steel sports models, you lose very little.

  • Keith Sandford

    Don’t like the second hand with the lume dot on the wrong end. Why TF do they do that?

  • Keith Sandford

    Put this movement in the 50th Anniversary Sea Dweller. I might buy it then at that price.

  • Peter Dailey

    10k! yea right!

  • Aditya

    Phew! Lovely watch, but what the hell peace pipe mix is Seiko passing around the finance department ?! 10,000 bills is an insane amount for this watch.

  • Michael

    Love it. Can I have one please?

  • John Henry

    Nice looking, but . . . the price. I think I would still prefer a GS diver with the Spring Drive: more accuracy, the sweep second hand and still available in titanium, for a lot less.