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The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

The sin of the digital is a sin of hubris, and hubris is the curse of all persons of power. The watch is squatting there right now, a heartbeat from the presidency, pulsing malignantly.

You want to know what time it is, Mr. President?

You want to know exactly what time it is?

Time to get another watch.

That excerpt comes from a 1993 Washington Post op-ed called "Noted With Disdain" referring to the Timex Ironman that then President Bill Clinton wore. Even though neither Hillary Clinton nor Donald Trump have recently been seen wearing a digital watch, it goes to show that one's taste in a wristwatch says something about the person who chooses to wear it. When that person is President, it becomes a reflection on the nation to some.

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

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No matter where you are in the world right now, there's no way that the 2016 election for President of the United States has evaded your attention. Yes, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump have had their fair share of rallies, debates, twitter fights, and now, with just under two weeks left, everyone is ready for it to be over. However, there's no way I could avoid looking at what watches these two wear and, interestingly enough, the brands chosen by each reveal a lot about them.

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

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I initially wanted to write this article about the two candidates for the office of the President of the United States back at the end of July once the conventions of both the Republican and Democratic parties had ended. Then, I thought maybe I should wait until closer to election day so as to see if any possible watch related moments from Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump happen to take place. No such luck on that front, rather we just ended up with one of the most bleak election cycles in the country's history.

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

Like some long festering childhood fear, this election and its coverage have been unavoidable, no matter how long you hide under the covers. However, since so many aBlogtoWatch readers are international, here's a summary: the Democratic Party has put forth Hillary Clinton, a historic candidate who is the first woman nominee for a major party in US history. The Republican Party has nominated Donald Trump, a real estate developer and former reality TV star who is making history of his own. After electing officials to hold offices like Governor of Florida and Speaker of the House of Representatives, the United States has now finally nominated its first Orange nominee to hold the highest office in the land.

Now, anyone who knows me knows that I can talk about all the non-watch stuff forever and ever, so I'll stop myself there. If I've somehow lured you into a politics/election black hole I recommend checking out blogs like FiveThirtyEight and the Keepin' it 1600 podcast.

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

Back to the candidates, let's assume that one's taste and choice in wristwatches reflects or reveals some aspects of their personality, because doing so certainly helps demonstrate some widely held perceptions of both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton has often been seen as someone who plays it pretty safe and whose political persona isn't exactly seen as electrifying. That being said, she's a mainstay who has seen sustained success and prestige in American politics as a First Lady, two-time senator, Secretary of State, and now nominee for President. Her brands of choice? Rolex and Chanel. Rolex makes 100% sense to me as a watch brand for someone who fits the aforementioned description. And if any brand says First Lady – it may be Chanel.

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

On the other hand, Donald Trump is a billionaire real estate developer and media personality with an almost compulsive need to brand anything he can get his hands on, ranging from apartment complexes to steaks to, you guessed it, watches. He's also known to most likely exaggerate his wealth and is the kind of guy who says "believe me" a lot. Keeping this in mind, it doesn't come as a shock at all that rather than give away all that real estate on his wrist (no comment on hand size), Trump gave the Canal Street treatment to a handful of iconic watch designs like the Rolex Daytona and TAG Heuer Monaco. By shabbily recreating their basic design fitted with a quartz movement and a Trump logo, Trump exclusively sold them at Macy's. Perhaps to not many people's surprise, the venture promptly failed within one year.

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

Credit: Photo by Ron Edmonds/AP

Sometimes the choice in a wristwatch is a lot more political and intentionally made in order to communicate something about yourself to the people. Bill Clinton campaigned wearing a Timex Ironman watch back in 1992. If there was anything to punctuate the age and indeed generational difference between himself and George H. W. Bush, who served as Vice President under Ronald Reagan from 1980-1988 and had been President since 1988, a digital sports watch would communicate that message perfectly. I mean what says the future like a digital watch in 1992?

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

This doesn't mean that the message always resonated. Back to that Washington Post  which borders on the poetic in its dislike of Clinton's watch. Personally, I think this article proves the success of the Ironman in getting the everyman message across. Here's an excerpt, but you really should check out the entire thing - it's very entertaining.

It began showing up in photographs early in the presidential campaign, an unsightly blemish that just wouldn't heal. Lately, it has become improbably conspicuous, as though the president were flaunting it, a bride-to-be flashing her fat new rock. It is a plastic digital watch, thick as a brick and handsome as a hernia.

No one disputes that the most powerful man on Earth should be free to wear whatever he wishes, but we should not confuse freedom with license. If Bill Clinton began arriving at state dinners in bare feet and bib overalls, stock prices would edge uneasily down. The president need not be impeccably tailored, but a certain dignity is expected.

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

Credit: Photo by Dennis Cook/ AP

But, returning to the Clinton who is running. Hillary Clinton has recently stopped wearing a watch, likely due to the fact that it's hard to connect to average working class Americans while waving around a watch that may retail for more than the average monthly income in the room (I doubt she'd be seen with a digital watch either). This could also be because wristwatches can create more problems than they're worth sometimes. Hillary has had "likability issues" for as long as people can remember, and being caught on camera checking the time can be seen as being bored or uninterested. I doubt that the photos taken of George HW Bush checking his watch like he had somewhere better to be would translate well in the twitter age. Seriously, the man could not stop checking his watch. On stage with Gorbachev, on the debate stage with Bill Clinton... just shots of H. W. looking bored and impatient.

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

Credit: Photo by Ron Edmonds/AP

Let me just continue with this aside for a moment, because I feel like the act of checking your watch has been near the top of the list of things not to do while campaigning and especially during something like a political debate. Bush the elder looked aloof and uninterested while the Big Dog (Bill Clinton) gave a much lauded answer to a woman in the audience who was shaken by the faltering economy. It's probably one of the first things mentioned in debate prep, but I think this year we learned that there are worse things you can do than check your watch. I say this because checking your watch as a nervous tic indicating impatience looks way better than whatever Donald Trump was doing here. Someone get this guy a genuine Donald J Trump Signature Dolex Traytona, stat!

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

On several instances Hillary Clinton has been seen wearing a Chanel J12 (aBlogtoWatch hands-on here) which is a ladies watch you see around often, especially in LA and New York where I spend most of my time. Not terribly exciting but definitely a decent choice as far as "fashion" watches go. It's a watch that comes in several varieties and can be decked out in diamonds but the standard model that Clinton wears retails just around $5,950.

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

Hillary Clinton is also a fan of Rolex. There are several instances of her wearing the Rolex Ladies Datejust in two-tone which looks to me to be the reference 179173. That is the 26mm version that comes in steel and 18k gold with white dial and stick hour markers, of course on a jubilee bracelet. If bought new, these go for $8,700.

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

The Watches Of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump Feature Articles

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However, Clinton has also been seen wearing a Rolex Day-Date, aka the Rolex President. Perhaps she chose to not wear it too often so as not to tempt fate too much, but perhaps she plans on giving it some more wrist time in the future. It looks like the reference 118238 which is the 18k yellow gold model with a white dial in a 36mm case with (of course) the President Bracelet. No surprise, this piece is the priciest of the bunch at $31,350.

About the Author

Bilal lives in Los Angeles by way of New York and shares the same appreciation and love of watches that likely brought you to aBlogtoWatch. His least favorite question to be asked is "what's your favorite watch?" since the answer changes every day.

His collection began with the watch that has likely fueled horological obsession for countless people, the Omega Speedmaster. Since then he has worn, enjoyed, or mocked about every other watch out there. You'll have to ask about the whole collection in person, though.
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  • DeepEye

    But..why does everyone in the media calls trump ‘a billionaire’, while in actuality he is not?

    • I think when you have an asset valuation of 3 and a half billion dollars, you’re typically referred to as a billionaire.

    • johnwithanh

      To both of your concerns 1. We’re not sure if he’s a billionaire or not. 2. If you have assets of $3.5 billion, but liabilities of $3.49 billion you’re not a billionaire. Again we don’t know that side of the ledger, but I am guessing if he were heavily in the black/not super leveraged we would know alllllllll about it.

      Having said that the Trump calendar function Daytona model with Tachymetre bezel and no pushers is one of the most “Trump” things I have ever seen.

  • Bozzor

    Not a fan of Bill Clinton but really, him wearing a low cost digital said Cost effective, accuracy, value, taking advantage of technology, unpretentious, does the job, down to business etc. That Washington Post article just reeks of class snobbery.

    Hillary’s watch choice is classy but predictable. Trump’s watches? Almost as disgraceful, classless and clueless as he is.

    • Gokart Mozart

      I reckon Bill Clinton wore that to be an average every day Joe.

  • IanE

    Well, I suppose politics had to come here eventually. As an outsider, all I can (or should) say is that, if Hillary and Donald are the best that Uncle Sam can produce, we are all fcuked, regardless of the outcome!

    • Omegaboy

      We all could write in . . . Ariel.

  • Mmm I see Trump has changed his coat of arms over the years. How lucky, being able to choose. I mean no other family in Europe, regal as they may be, can do that because a family name is a family name. But what do we know about those things here.

    I found one that would look even better: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8e7a434d268e56bd3d92e91acea56d542c43476f8040c81a26cbcad9a8a5857d.jpg

  • DR

    Great piece, Bilal. If there’s ever a quiet news day in watch land, I’m sure Messrs Putin and Sarkozy would be excellent candidates for similar profiles!

    Sadly the collapse in the pound means that we now trade squirrel pelts and sexual favours for food, so I don’t expect any British politicians to feature in the near future. At least Churchill had a nice Datejust, back when we ruled the Earth! 🙂

  • Bill W

    Well, it’s clear from the article who Bilal is “with”. As for me, #ImWithHorology because I want to #MakeHorologyGreatAgain.

    BillW2020

  • Marius

    TRUMP watches are great! The great Walt Odets reviewed a TRUMP Ultra-Thin watch and this is what he had to say about it:

    “… the TRUMP watch is an almost flawless piece of design and engineering.
    In person, this is a watch with a shimmering, ethereal perfection that
    cannot be conveyed in photographs. It is a masterpiece. Perhaps more than
    any other current-production TRUMP watch, the Ultra Thin stands as
    testimony to the extraordinarily broad talents and deep quality of a manufacturer
    that, taken on the whole, is arguably the great house, among the greats,
    of contemporary Swiss watch manufacturing.”

    Those who think otherwise are just a bunch of mean, nasty, vicious, foul-mouth punters.

    • Dinkee, H. O.

      He liked it a lot better than the Rolex Explorer he took apart.

  • “Believe me. Trump watches are tremendous. No one can tell time better than me. No one has more respect for time than me. I have the best times. Hillary should be in jail for not owning a Trump watch. SAD!”

    • laup nomis

      True, so true. Thats true. I know true, Ive seen it. Its true. Not like crooked Hilary, shes tired. Very tired, To tired to be president. I know.

    • Paul

      “I have the best times.” LOL

  • TBSC

    I’m not interested what kind of watch Muppet #1 wears while I could not care less what kind of watch Muppet #2 wears.

  • David Williams

    Bilal’s description of the orange man-child’s awful ripoffs as “horological atrocities” is eloquent and entertaining – I’ve heard that their date mechanisms have a tendency to stick on the 28th! It would be interesting to know exactly where they were made, and under what conditions.

    Hillary’s watches, though, are appropriate for a serious politician doing a serious job. She could choose to be much more extravagant and frivolous, but goes for classic brands and styles. Given the lack of anything suitably distinguished that’s made in the USA (to go with her Ralph Lauren outfits) it’s difficult to criticize her choices.

    • cmbezln

      Wow, really? I person who’s entire wardrobe, words and actions are carefully crafted by one of the biggest, richest campaigns in history does things that seem appropriate for politics? What a revelation!

  • Bill W

    If Ariel shows up in this thread I get $10. If this article shows up in the semi-monthly roundup, I give you $10. Who wants a piece of that action? 🙂

  • word-merchant

    Clinton’s watch needs to be a Reverso so it can have as many faces as she does.

    • Bill W

      With a solid caseback so the donors can do whatever they want with it.

      • Like engrave it “Love GS”

        • Omegaboy

          I was thinking “Love, HA”.

    • Thomas Halvorsen

      ..

  • “”You have no reason to remember, but we came out of the White House not only dead broke, but in debt,” Hillary Clinton said.”

    It’s difficult to pity one’s financial situation when one’s watch collection totals more than $50,000. Not to mention $4 million worth of real estate. And $3 million in book royalties. You know, like regular folk.

    • Omegaboy

      They sold all the Whitehouse dishes, silverware, and furniture they absconded with when they left on Craigslist in order to eat. It was rough for a while. Chelsea did babysitting for the neighbors.

  • Raymond Wilkie

    In Scotland calling a brand of anything Trump is the worst name ( a trump is a fart here ). I’ve had a closer look at trumps offerings and without exception they are all just awful. You guys over the pond allowed this situation to happen…………..shame on you.

    • IanE

      Now, now – after all, you have the Sturgeon!

      • David Williams

        Aye, she’s seen by many as a fishy one!

    • SuperStrapper

      You’re a political expert too? Wow, we’re just so lucky to have you Ray.

      • Raymond Wilkie

        Having an opinion does not make me an expert.

        • SuperStrapper

          You just shamed every citizen of the USA, but your hands are clean? It’s just an opinion?

          You crack me up Ray.

        • Beefalope

          He shamed us because we deserve to be shamed — and he never claimed to be an expert.

          Is he not allowed to have an opinion?

          • Raymond Wilkie

            Thank you Beefalope.

          • Beefalope

            I’ve got nothing but love for our cousins across the pond.

          • laup nomis

            eh!

            I know nothing about anything political. But your current election cycle is currently my favorite form of entertainment. That is after comrade Corbyn and Ms Maybe over here.
            I mean when I say that I find your current candidates entertaining, that its absolutely and utterly sodding terrifying. Leaders of the free world, nuclear Armageddon and all that.

          • SuperStrapper

            Are you asking me, or Ray?

          • Beefalope

            You.

            You’re the one who made the claim he fancies himself as a political expert simply because he expressed an opinion. He never made such a claim.

          • SuperStrapper

            Thats what I assumed, but I found it confusing that you asked Ray a question aimed at me.

    • cmbezln

      “Hey guys, I’m some know-nothing from an insignificant country and I read literally one article on the internet, my opinion is important!”

      • Raymond Wilkie

        Don’t be so bloody rude.

      • Beefalope

        Why is Scotland an insignificant country? Scotland has contributed a great deal to the world, has good people and is a beautiful place.

        And why would you assume that he’s only read one article on the Internet about what’s going on in our country? The entire world is worried about Trump and puzzled about how a seemingly civilized country could elevate a cretin like Trump this close to the most powerful position on Earth. Many people in the world are paying attention.

        • cmbezln

          Because Scotland, and the entire world you mentioned, doesn’t understand the party dynamics and clandestine corruption like people who live in the US do, save for maybe countries that were fucked by the Clintons like Haiti.

          Also, you don’t speak for the fucking world, stop using that typical liberal copout/trope as some kind of justification for your cartoonish understanding of the political landscape.

          • The Deplorable Boogur T. Wang

            Sure they do. Just ask ’em.

    • Paul

      I visited Edinburgh a couple of years ago and Trump was on the cover of one of your tabloid papers (maybe The Scotsman?) with screaming headlines about how much of an ass he is.

      Love Scotland, btw. Gracious people, amazing history, and terrific pubs.

      • Raymond Wilkie

        He has two golf courses here. Turnberry ( which has now been re branded the Trump turnberry), which was well established and bulldozed 4,000 year old sand dunes on the north east of the country for the Trump International Golf Links.

        • Paul

          The fact that he owns Turnberry and had the audacity to “rebrand it” tells you all you need to know about that jackass. No sense of history, no appreciation for anything outside of making a quick buck. I hope Turnberry stays in the Open rota, but part of me hopes it doesn’t now, which is a shame.

        • mtnsicl

          Everything people build is on something that is thousands of years old, if not billions of years old. The earth is an old place you know.

          • Raymond Wilkie

            That’s very true. But he managed against a lot of objection to plonk a very elitist golf course on an area of the Ayrshire coast. One suspects some palms were greased with Trump dollars. It was an area of natural beauty with sand dunes and wild life going back thousands of years.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d159172c7ecfa3769fa4e7099f8a7ed50dabf97be0505db9ee4ad23b310931bb.jpg

          • mtnsicl

            There’s an objection these days everytime someone builds something. You can’t make everyone happy. Everything we build on was once’ “an area of natural beauty”. Look at what people have built on the island of Hawaii. So, “one suspects”? But, obviously you or anyone else doesn’t have any proof of that. And, even if were true, it’s not illegal. In fact, it’s basic human dehavior. You do me a favor and be nice to me and I’ll probably do the same for you. “Elitist golf course”? You say that as if there’s something wrong with that. Do you feel that something like that should not excist? Perhaps, it’s just unfair for those who are not able to spend the money to go a golf course like that? Are you starting to see how ridiculous you sound? Tell me, do you own a computer and/or cell phone?

          • Raymond Wilkie

            I don’t like the tone of your reply.
            Yes yes, since the dawn of time man has built to fill the need for an ever expanding population but their has to be a cut off point or their will be no space for any other species. The area that he built on was protected for the local wildlife and his first application was turned down flat by the local council. He then went to the Scottish parliament and managed to have the ruling overturned.
            I couldn’t care less about some rich folks paying up to $3.000 a night to play a round of golf. ( i quite enjoy the game myself ) but the area is quite beautiful and was accessible to all until he showed up , knocked some people off their own land and gold plated everything.
            Income for the Scottish economy,……yet to be assessed.
            I own a mobile phone we don’t call it a cell.
            I am of sound mind and body.

          • mtnsicl

            Well of course you don’t like the tone of my reply. That’s because you know I’m right. So, I guess you think the human expansion cut off point should start with Trump? I’ll bet if you go look at the golf course, it’s still beautiful. Maybe you should be upset with the Scottish Parliment, instead of Trump.

          • Raymond Wilkie

            I don’t have the inclination to list how many ways you are wrong.
            This is neither the time or place for such a discussion.
            I take a keen interest in my country and it’s future ( bloody brexit ) and have seen for myself what he has done.
            That’s my last comment on the matter.

          • mtnsicl

            Oh please, take the time to prove me wrong. Oh, that’s right you can’t.

          • Raymond Wilkie

            Don’t get sucked in Raymond, just walk away with an air of dignity.

          • mtnsicl

            Dignity? You wouldn’t know dignity if it slapped you up side your head. If you want to be dignified, have some respect for our country, give Our President Elect a chance and stop saying negative things about him every chance you get. Your own country has enough of its own problems. You don’t need to bother yourself with what’s going on here. And, go back to hittin’ your bottle!

          • Raymond Wilkie

            If ” go back to hittin’ your bottle! ” means drinking, i don’t.

          • mtnsicl

            Yeah, that’s what they all say. Especially the Scottish and Irish.

          • mtnsicl

            Oh please Wilkie, take the time to prove me wrong. The problem is, you don’t have the inclination, nor do you have the education to prove me wrong. Maybe next time your keen interest should stop at your countries border and stop having such strong opinions about a country you know nothing about. Now, go back to drinking bra!

          • Raymond Wilkie

            Can’t believe you just called me Wilkie. Even in a heated debate thats just plain rude.

          • mtnsicl

            Oh, I thought that was your name. Are you using a fake name? Do, you want me to fix it for you? I will!

    • Beefalope

      You’re right. We absolutely should be ashamed of ourselves as a country for allowing this to happen. I mean this in all sincerity, too.

      When I travel abroad and people ask me about Trump and how America could have allowed it to get this far, I have absolutely no idea what to tell them.

      I’m guessing the Italians feel the same way about Berlusconi and the English feel the same way about Boris Johnson.

      • laup nomis

        I’m British for my sins. And you’re right about Boris, we don’t understand it either. The world is all topsy turvy. We’ve voted ourselves out of the worlds biggest trading block with Brexit. And you Americans have Trump.
        What the hell is going on!

        • Beefalope

          It’s an odd time in the world right now, my friend. It almost seems like the time before World War I, when numerous forces were converging to create the perfect storm.

          Now, I don’t think that we’re headed for another event like that. But look at all the things going on in the world: Trump, Brexit, Putin, the rise of nationalism in Western Europe, a thug like Duterte in the Philippines, a terrible drug war in Mexico, borderline economic collapse possibly leading to governmental collapse in Greece and Spain, tremendous financial instability in China, radical terrorism, tolerance for torture of refugees in Australia, a bunch of other stuff I haven’t mentioned.

          The 9/11 attacks began to destabilize the governing structures of the world, and then the financial collapse of 2008 worsened the existing damage. It appears that the world is just reorganizing itself right now, but too many peoples of the world are turning to hatred, scapegoating immigrants and general radicalism as solutions. I’m very concerned about what’s just around the corner.

          And none of these problems will be going away regardless of who’s elected to be America’s next president. The ideas that produced Trump and all of these other things will be just as strong — or stronger — on November 9th as they were before that.

          • laup nomis

            Yes to all that.
            Just another little fact. With our One Million plus refugees sleeping where they can in Europe at the moment. There hasn’t been this many displaced persons since ww2.
            Why have we suddenly returned to the cold war with Putin, that’s truly frighting.
            That Duterte is another sign of broken politics. Trump, Corbyn here, Duterte, etc.

    • laup nomis

      I heard he was a real gent and treats all the locals around his mega golf course really well. Hes still top buddies with old Alex Salmond isn’t he. Alex cant sing his praises enough I’ve heard.

  • The Trump watch! My retinaaaaaaas!

    • IanE

      Great Heavens! Some watches unbeloved by iamcalledryan – that trumps everything!

      • LOL – well I usually don’t comment when I haven’t got anything good to say about a watch, but I think it’s important for ALL watch lovers to get out and vote for their favourite watch here; if we stay silent the world may end up governed by an horological abomination, and it will be on those that didn’t stand up for a better, albeit flawed, more qualified timepiece to govern us.

        • IanE

          Heh, heh, it all recalls the GS vs Rolex battles – an altogether healthier issue to bring to ABTW! (Actually, I am more of an Omega man, but let’s not get too controversial.)

          • I prefer an independent horological ticket:
            Roger Smith / Kari Voutilainen 2016!

          • IanE

            Well, yes, but I was sticking closer to my realistic options (though I do have an 1815 up/down, but that’s as close to most Indies as I’ll ever get). Otherwise, my vote goes to the Dinner Party, where, as we all know, one should never discuss politics or religion!

          • Oh yeah, let’s up the ante and debate what watches Jesus and Mohamed would wear…

          • “Smartwatches” no doubt. Depends on which OS they were fond of.

          • laup nomis

            Yes and YES. I wish I wasn’t church mouse poor.

  • DanW94

    Two brands come to mind as apropos for these two. Shinola, as in they don’t know sh*t from, and Fossil as in both relevant when the dinosaurs roamed the earth.

    • AghastinFL

      Bill Clinton is an ardent fan of Shinola watches and regularly gifts them to others…
      Surprised?

      • DanW94

        Not in the least.

  • SuperStrapper

    I was going to make a funny comment about Killory Clinton, but I don’t want to be found tomorrow having committed suicide by shooting myself in the back of the head 3 times.

  • Allan

    Surprised Trumph hasn’t been spotted wearing the 60mm Panerai. Seems more his style.

    • Beefalope

      It’s spelled Drumph.

      • mtnsicl

        It’s spelled, “our next president”. Haha!!

  • Terence Kuch

    I liked the photos of Hillary Clinton you used – serious expressions, not looking goofy as she too often does in the pages of the Washington Post (they support Clinton – but they picture her badly).

    • David Williams

      Yes, dare one say that she looks reassuringly “Presidential” … ?!

      • cmbezln

        Yeah man, when i choose a president, I do it based on looks. I’m informed!

  • When Adrian Fenty was campaigning for Mayor of Washington DC he was criticized for being out of touch with everyday people for wearing an “expensive” watch, a Tag Heuer chrono ( a gift from his then wife).
    Politician’s watches resonate, but the criteria vary widely.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ba4e2b1a0eb133662385bed05052f8896aab53f20285b89cf071915d9cd78f38.jpg

    • LOL – I got one of these from my wife too!

      • I don’t want to go off topic here – it’s not like this is a watch blog or anything – but would you know the reference number for that particular TAG? I know it’s a 2000 series, but they made like 11,000 models.

        • Not to hand sir, and my one might be a little different (I don’t recall the tachy) – but it was close enough!

  • Goodguy678

    Absolutely disgusting article but what could you expect from a cuck called Khan living in LA

    • Mdfw

      “Cuckcuckcuckcuck”
      One can spot an alt-right lunatic from 500 miles away…

      • Goodguy678

        “alt-right”
        One can spot a ctr shill from 5555 miles away.

        • Mdfw

          Believe it or not, the term “alt-right” came about way before Clinton announced her run.
          But I’m sure you have some conspiracy theory about how Hillary’s shill team manufactured the alt right so she could get ahead in the presidential race or something..

    • Raymond Wilkie

      What’s a cuck ?

    • Beefalope

      That’s right — if his name is Bilal Khan, he’s not an American and doesn’t get an opinion. Only people with names like Bill Smith or Suzie Jones are the “real ‘Muricans who get an opinion.” If you have a different-sounding name and you have darker skin, you just need to shut up and go home.

      Is that how it works, racist?

      You need to change your handle from Goodguy678 to Racistpieceoftrash678.

  • Mike V

    And yet the left wing yellow journalism continues on ABTW. It isn’t bad enough we are bombarded daily from the new media with grossly unbalanced garbage on two candidates that are each unfit to hold the position but now ABTW has to give its biased take. And from someone named Khan no less. Don’t tell me – another member of the gold star family?

    • Beefalope

      That’s right — from someone named Khan, no less!!!

      Are you a terrorist, Khan? If not, why do you have a name like Khan? With a name like that, surely you must be plotting the destruction of America.

      Good lord, Mike, how did you come to conclusion that it’s acceptable to be this openly racist?

  • AghastinFL

    This article was a mistake.
    If you think roasting one candidate over another is winning over readers I offer this message:

    Cancel Email Subscription
    Are you sure you wish to end your email subscription to:
    “aBlogtoWatch”
    We will be sorry to see you go, but it’s your subscription to manage as you see fit.

    Yes, I did cancel my subscription and yes I will think twice before choosing to peruse the site again. While Ariel and many other writers hold my attention, Mr. Khan IMO has proven himself unworthy of future consideration.
    On exit I will query, Have you treated other retailers and celebrity endorsements equally? I don’t remember you publicly bashing Tommy Hilfiger, Tommy Bahama, Calvin Klein, Michael Kors et. al. regards their product lines although all are sold by the same vendors. What say you?

    • Beefalope

      OH NO!!!

      We’ve lost another one!!!

      This is a sad day in ABTW history.

      AghastinFL was the lifeblood of ABTW. Without him or her or it to be our moral compass, ABTW is lost.

    • Bilal Khan

      I do identify watch brands preferred by Trump. “It’s funny, but Trump really is not often seen wearing a wristwatch. There are a couple of photos floating around of Trump wearing what appears to be a Rolex Day-Date and a watch I can’t for the life of me make out but that appears to maybe be a Patek Philippe Ellipse ref. 3760 with a gold cuff bracelet.”

      While Hillary’s taste is simple enough, I’d check out the 3 or so paragraphs I quote calling Bill’s choice in watches as an embarrassment to the nation.

      • laup nomis

        Shame on you for having an opinion. 🙂

    • The Deplorable Boogur T. Wang

      Well stated.
      IMO, you should stay.

    • EdipisReks

      Back to Breitbart, pussy grabber. Nobody will miss you.

    • Thomas Halvorsen

      “Cancel Email Subscription
      Are you sure you wish to end your email subscription to:
      “aBlogtoWatch”
      We will be sorry to see you go, but it’s your subscription to manage as you see fit.”

      Ablogtowatch is crying right now. Look what you did

  • cmbezln

    Did clinton send out a blanket of checks to everybody who writes articles for anything? Get out of here with your generic John Oliver political commentary.

    • Beefalope

      That’s right — there’s no way the editorial staff of ABTW actually has a brain, right? If you write anything intelligent that is mildly critical of a candidate that cmbezin doesn’t like, then that means you’ve surely been paid off.

      Which Saudi billionaire bought off ABTW?

      • cmbezln

        Supporting Hillary Clinton shows a total lack of a brain, so much so that I can only assume that they’ve been paid off, you know, like the rest of media has been?

        I’m sorry that you’re butthurt that people don’t like your candidate.

        • Beefalope

          PAID OFF!!!!!

          MORE CONSPIRACIES!!!!!

          BACK-ALLEY DEALS!!!!!

          BUTTHURT!!!! (even though she’s not my candidate, but don’t let that get in the way of a good rant. You’re on a roll.)

          • cmbezln

            “let’s see, I don’t want to argue since I have no substantive arguments, but I want to have the final word while pretending I’m right…I know, I’ll just say random things insinuating the things he’s saying are conspiracies! Im so smart!”

            – idiot

          • Beefalope

            It’s actually, “I’m so smart!” You need an apostrophe.

            You”””””””””””””””””””””re welcome.

          • cmbezln

            That’s the best you got? That one of my two “I’m”s is missing an apostrophe? You’re going to give me a better last word than that, stupid.

      • Sheik Yerbouti of course (gotta be some Zappa fans out there, ha ha). https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4fea0911108527216c2e17ebbf9fc6da8e163852a2f6a7e2124d4658bc1eaf06.jpg

        • laup nomis

          1,000,000,000 (that’s a billion!!) cool points for Mr C.

          Cause I’m just a dancin fool and broken hearts are for assholes. Not my favourite, but still brill. I liked his Hot Rats and Live at the Filmore best.

    • EdipisReks

      That sounds right, pussy grabber. I’m sure you’ll be hanging out on Breitbart, until the November 9 “riot.”

      • cmbezln

        I’m voting for Johnson and I literally went to Breitbart for the first time this week to see what all the fuss was. Enjoy your campaign of rhetoric and bullying, though…sounds like a great way for an adult to soend his time.

  • Jerry Davis

    Thanks for politicizing and throwing a leftist slant on a watch blog.
    Not sure why you all felt the need to leave a bad taste in the mouth of
    a large number of your subscribers.

    • Beefalope

      Only the juvenile subscribers who are extremely and unreasonably offended by any criticism of their champion, no matter how mild it may be.

    • EdipisReks

      Good for you, pussy grabber.

  • cluedog12

    Watches and western politicians do not mix.

  • johnwithanh

    Make Horology Great Again (by never showing another picture of a Trump watch)! Just so bad on every level. In the words of Condi Rice, “looking forward to November 9!”

  • Andrew Steel

    Great i loved this blog now not so sure. Nice leftist slant. Did you get hillaries email or something.

    • Sarthak Sharma

      Honestly, I’d venture to say that one look at the pictured Trump watch would be enough to send the most staunch conservative watch lover over to Democrat-land.

    • Beefalope

      Yeah!!! Did you get “hillaries” email or something?

      Did you?

      DID YOU?!?!?!

    • EdipisReks

      Ok, pussy grabber.

  • cg

    Hillary has a Truth Detector watch she never wears and Monica says Bill’s watch is still ticking up there since he lost it! I remember B&H when they left the WH they said they were so poor they had to hock their Rolex gifts from Saudi’s… guess they bought them back! Lock Her Up… with her Rolex of course.

  • Dinkee, H. O.

    I wonder how many of those watches for Hillary were gifts to buy a little influence? We already know about all those millions from dictatorships and evil regimes that have been revealed thanks to Wikileaks as corrupting her Secretary of State reign, but you have to wonder if some of these watches weren’t icing on the cake bribery for the Play for Pay? The origins of these watches of hers would make for a very interesting article wouldn’t it Bilal Khan?

    • DanW94

      “The origins of these watches of hers would make for a very interesting article”

      Bill surfing the Internet late at night and finding JomaShop. Not really that interesting after all. 🙂

      • Dinkee, H. O.

        Her one watch is a Dubai boutique only. I’m sure there’s lots of good stories here, Danny-boy. Maybe a search of the wikileaks dumps will reveal some clues. Well, Bilal Khan? How about a little fair and balanced? Scared?

      • Beefalope

        Yeah, “Danny Boy,” are you scared of another rant?

        Are you, Danny Hussein Boy?

        Be honest — you’re a communist, terrorist, socialist, Islamist, homosexualiszst, feminist, anti-whitist pinko, aren’t you?

        How dare you come on here and make a joke, Danny Osama Boy? You deserve to be excoriated for what you’ve done.

        • laup nomis

          Haha

    • Thomas Halvorsen

      The self-proclaimed pedophile H.O. Dinkee is a trump supporter. The collective surprise will stun the horological world.

  • mtnsicl

    This is The Official ABTW Jumping the Shark episode. I have unsubscribed and I won’t be back. There are to many other places to get my watch fix from. And, I didn’t let the door hit my ass on the way out.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark

    • Sarthak Sharma

      Respectfully, I don’t understand how this is jumping the shark. ABTW is a watch news website. The two presidential candidates are very much part of the news, and they happen to also wear an interesting array of watches. As such, this website publishes information about that with a slight dose of added humor. No sharks appear to be jumped here.

      • Dinkee, H. O.

        I was in a place where MSNBC was playing yesterday morning in the background. I was there for 90 minutes worth of attack Trump programming. I’ve never seen anything like it. Now ABTW has taken the same ride down the sewer as mainstream media.

        • mtnsicl

          Yeah it’s sad that the media has more influence on what happens in this country than the politicians do.

          • Beefalope

            When will you be unsubscribing? I just need to brace myself.

        • Beefalope

          1. MSNBC is a left-leaning station. What did you expect?

          2. Trump is being attacked because there are countless good reasons to attack him. Clinton is being attacked because there are countless good reasons to attack her. What’s the problem? We’re supposed to be critical of our politicians. That’s democracy.

          3. You’ve never seen anything like it? How is it different than what Fox has been doing to Obama for eight years?

          4. You’re equivocating MSNBC, a 24-hour politically based news station, with ABTW, which has written all of one article about this? Seriously? That’s the problem with the modern right — you never let the facts get in the way of a good rant. True conservatives like William Buckley would be horrified by what’s become of the conservative movement. Goldwater turned his back on the conservative movement in the last decade of his life. Hell, even Reagan would be appalled, and Bush I and Bush II are appalled.

          5. And how is a mildly critical article in ABTW a trip to the sewer?

          Calm down, relax and think about what you’re actually writing.

          • cmbezln

            1. no comment
            2. Trump is being attacked because the DNC is coordinating the attacks, they are not genuine. You should read some of the emails that have leaked, since you know….THEYRE FUCKING RELEVANT. If you look at ANY of the campaign coverage analysis done, the overwhelming majority of coverage is about trump and 90%+ of that coverage is negative. Stop burying your head in the sand.
            3. Fox news being biased doesn’t account for the sudden and drastic tone change for MSM, the collusion with the DNC and hillary campaign does.
            4. You’re acting like this is the right “changing” when this is a different group of people taking over the party. You’re listing establishment conservative candidates and of course they’d be at odds with an anti-establishment candidate and movement. Because of clown show of political discourse and media in this country, everybody is getting sick of it and now you’re just seeing different factions of people who are sick of it. Classic liberals and libertarian leaning conservatives had Ron Paul. Progressives had Bernie Sanders and now the neo-conservatives and nationalists have Trump. This is the bed establishment politics has made for itself as it stopped even pretending to care about it’s voter base and became more and more about cronyism with big business.

            Long story short, stop watching John Oliver.

          • Beefalope

            CONSPIRACY!!!!

            THE GOVERNMENT!!!

            AREA 51!!!!

            TRILATERAL COMMISSION!!!!

          • cmbezln

            Yeah that’s about the response I’d expect from a Clinton supporter when presented with real information.

          • Beefalope

            Yes. Real information.

          • cmbezln

            Yeah dummy, you know…information from the stacks of emails released by wikileaks confirmed, even by thr Clinton campaign themselves, to be legitimate? If you werent busy trying to push rhetoric, you’d notice they have lists a mile long of “journalists” and media figureheads working directly with the campaign. Its not a conspiracy when the facts are out in the open, lol.

          • cmbezln

            Aside from everything I just said, not that you care about actual discourse here (obviously), I’m suprised that the Clinton campaign didn’t push the conspiracy angle more and/or just outright deny thr legitimacy of the emails. The only one that has so far is Donna Brazil but she’s too retarded to make it a compelling lie/distraction. This whole Russia thing they’ve been pushing is hilariously transparent to even her supporters

          • Berndt Norten

            Jack Van Impe. Final World Government. Holy Roman Empire. The Anti-Christ. Bilderburgers (avec fromage, svp).

          • laup nomis

            Don’t ruin it by being rational Beef.
            Its like a day at the zoo. And I’m no left-leaning person either.

          • Beefalope

            It’s just amazing to me how some people get so worked up defending THEIR politician of choice. These people are politicians looking to get elected; they’re not our friends and they barely care about us, and I’m being generous. To some people, any level of criticism — no matter how legitimate and how necessary to a healthy democracy — is an affront to their core values that necessitates an outrageous response.

            I’m further amazed by how many people think that their side has the right answer, while everyone on the other side is just plain wrong. This is such nonsense. If the right or left or anyone else had all of the answers, then we wouldn’t have all the problems we have. I’m actually very much a left-leaning person, but the last thing I would want is for the left to take over completely in this country or any other country — just as I wouldn’t want the right to do the same. We need a lot of ideas to compromise and provide balance.

          • laup nomis

            Balance – amen to that.

      • mtnsicl

        You’re correct, this is a watch news website. It shouldn’t be a left wing political website. I see no humor here, just someone who has broken the Fair and Balanced rule of journalism. Even if it was fair and balanced, it’s not a place I want to come to for my political news.

        Besides this place has had an air of self righteousness for a long time. I’m done with it. ABTW isn’t nessesarily for survival.

        • Sarthak Sharma

          1. One article out of many by one author out of many does not make a website into a left wing political website. 2. I don’t know how securely a wristwatch website really needs to adhere to fair and balanced journalism, but that’s more opinion than anything else. 3. “Air of self righteousness”- in what way? I’m not sure how many ABTW articles you could point out that display the author having a sense of moral superiority. 4. Obviously, your choice of reading material is personal to you, and I’m not trying to force you to read this website, but I guess your comment leads me to ask if you just want a website that cut-and-dry tells you about the next new watch, or one that presents different viewpoints and takes some editorial risks centered around wristwatches. I don’t think this is an amazing article by any stretch, but I don’t see where they’ve gotten so bad that you just can’t avoid a particular viewpoint. After all, this isn’t Breitbart or Raw Story.

          • Raymond Wilkie

            My thoughts exactly.

          • mtnsicl

            Bro, you can post all you want. I’m not reading your drivel.

          • Sarthak Sharma

            Good talk, bro.

          • Beefalope

            Yes, bro, how dare you make reasonable points to msnsici? Of course he interprets that as drivel.

            By the way, have you heard that he’s (allegedly) unsubscribed? It’s a pretty big deal.

        • Beefalope

          What fair and balanced “rule” of journalism? There’s no such “rule.”

          You just don’t like it because it doesn’t defend your troglodyte candidate. Boo hoo.

          I thought you promised us you “won’t be back,” so hit the bricks and go whine somewhere else.

          • mtnsicl

            Boy, you’re not the sharpest pencil in the lot. That’s Journalism 101. Read 3 and 4. Shit, just read the whole thing, you might learn something.

            I don’t like it because when I come to a watch blog I don’t want to be slapped in the face with politics. If you’ll read my posts here, you’ll see that I don’t take a stance one way or another.

            It takes a while for the unsubscribe to kick in. Once that happens, this place will be but a distant memory!

            http://blog.journalistics.com/2009/journalism_101_16_things_you_learn_in_j_school/

          • Beefalope

            That’s not a “rule,” dummy; it’s a suggestion. Journalism is unregulated. And this “rule” of yours certainly is a great deal more relevant to publications like the Washington Post or the New York Times. ABTW is not a news organization. There are tons of publications out there that aren’t fair and balanced, and they don’t purport to be. Many of those publications — The New Yorker comes to mind — are left-leaning, don’t hide that and are excellent.

            You haven’t been slapped in the face with politics; you were given one article. If your sensibilities are so delicate that you can’t even deal with that, maybe you’re just not a very mentally strong person.

            You keep threatening us with unsubscribing, as though any of us gives a rip. Just go ahead and leave, brother. No one’s forcing you to be here or respond to posts.

          • mtnsicl

            Yeah, name calling. Does that make you feel superior? That’s what people resort to when they know they are wrong. ABTW is a media outlet. Especially when they start posting articles like this one. Believe me, there are many others, who have not posted that will unsubscribe. Just as many here have stated that they have done.

          • Beefalope

            Let me get this straight, you just said to me, “You’re not the sharpest pencil in the lot,” and now you’re complaining about name-calling?????????????

            Well, here’s a set of names that are entirely accurate but that you really won’t like: you’re a stone-cold hypocritical coward who’s a whiny child that can barely dish out the heat but can’t take it.

            In other words, you’ve modeled yourself after Trump.

            Now hurry up and hit the bricks, pal. You’ve got whimpering in a corner to do with all of the other cowards who are going to be unsubscribing.

            And while we’re at it, you’re really bad at unsubscribing. You keep threatening us with this — as though it’s a threat — but then you keep returning. How the hell are “many others” going to unsubscribe when even you, Lord of the Idiots, can’t do it properly?

          • mtnsicl

            I didn’t call you a name. In fact, I made it a question to see how you would answer. You failed to even notice it as a question. That tells me your reading comprehension skills are poor. And, before you say I edited it. Yes, I did. Within a minute of me posting it.

            And again, it usually takes 24 hours for an unsubscription to kick in. But, I guess in your internet wisdom, you have never learned that. When it does, I’m gone.

          • Beefalope

            Right, you didn’t call me a name. You also didn’t insult me. Here’s what I recommend: leave your house, find the biggest, meanest-looking, angriest guy on the street — preferably a felon — and tell him: “You’re not the sharpest pencil in the lot, are you?” Then, after that, tell him, “Your reading comprehension skills are poor.”

            See how that works out for you.

            By the way, Mr. Unsubscribe, you know that there’s nothing actually forcing you to respond while you’re riding out this alleged 24-hour period, right?

          • mtnsicl

            Haha, this is classic! Your pencil is so dull or never even sharpened that you just compared yourself to a big, mean, ugly felon. This is entertainment at its finest. No need for a visit to Walmart with you around. Haha, ROTFLMFAO!!! Maybe I will stick around just for the laughs!

        • Peter

          There’s nothing wrong with the article. It is slightly amusing, tongue in cheek and doesn’t warrant dissing a whole watch site. If you exit every website, TV channel or news media source that published something you find offensive, you must be getting a bit short on options right now.

          The fact that you find it so threatening or offensive says more about you than anything else. I suppose I’d also be embarrassed if my candidate of choice developed a brand of watch that looked as if it was directly from a Bangkok night market.

          • mtnsicl

            I have not stated my candidate of choice. That’s not the problem here. Try re-reading my post instead of interjecting your opinion.

        • Bilal Khan

          To be fair, I start the piece by quoting an article that eviscerates Bill’s taste in watches as being a national disgrace. The second, longer quote is even harsher I’d say.

          Also, yes it’s a watch blog. So, if one of the candidates had their own watch brand that, generously speaking, took 95% of their design from well known iconic watches, then it’s fair game if you ask me.

          • mtnsicl

            Bill isn’t running for President now, is he!

          • NC

            Maybe you should tell the Trump campaign that.

          • mtnsicl

            What they do is none of my business. If that chaps your camel toe, perhaps you should tell them.

          • Dave Pryor

            Bill has no taste in watches, then or now.

            He’s Arky Trailer Trash. He wouldn’t know a Timex from a Rolex.

        • EdipisReks

          Go back to Breitbart, pussy grabber.

    • Beefalope

      Oh no!!!!

      We lost him!!!!

      The horror.

      The horror.

      • Raymond Wilkie

        It my be devastating news, but try to keep calm.

    • It’s always funny to see people post that they’re leaving and then continue to engage in worthless conversation long after that post. They’re not even able to pretend they have integrity on the internet.

      • Bill W

        I also think it’s funny because I guess nowadays integrity on the internet=upvoting your own comments. Or was your point that you’re long past pretending?

        • The fact that I’m a part of this conversation says everything about my integrity as it does you. I guess the same goes for editing comments after the fact to change context. Looks like you forgot the internet is written in stone.

    • EdipisReks

      Go back to Breitbart. Nobody cares.

  • Paul

    Those Trump watches are horribad. Talk about cheap junk.

    I think this was a good, timely article. It’s always interesting (to me, anyway) to learn about what Presidents and Presidential candidates wear on their wrist. The result of this exercise couldn’t be more predictable. Trump is a tasteless, classless boor who wears ill-fitting suits, so of course he’s not meticulous enough to wear any kind of watch, interesting or not (it’s much easier to bark “What time is it?!?” at the nearest sycophant). Hillary is a tasteless, boring, life-long public servant who, relatively speaking, just recently came into money, so of course she would go for the standard issue Rolex, or the gaudy Chanel watch that was probably a gift from her daughter.

    Useful article about two boring, uninteresting people and their boring, uninteresting horological choices.

    • Beefalope

      When the man is right, the man is right.

    • Thomas Halvorsen

      The datejust is tasteless now. Good to know, Paul.

      • Paul

        Not at all what I meant to convey. If someone doesn’t know a lot about watches, and has a lot of money, and wants to buy a watch that they think is the best watch there is, they will almost always go with a Datejust (or a two-tone Submariner). Nothing against those watches at all, but they have become the de facto choice for people who don’t know what else is out there.

  • Dinkee, H. O.

    I SURE HOPE YOU CONTINUE DOWN THIS ROAD, ABTW! BETWEEN THIS AND SMART WATCHES YOU HAVE A WINNING FORMULA!

    • Peter

      You really should stop the shouting, and while you are at it, why don’t you change your name to something that isn’t a direct rip off of one of the best watch sites out there. It’s about as offensive as the garbage you spew out.

    • Bulgarian

      I am sick of that dinkeeberry

    • Thomas Halvorsen

      I sure hope you elaborate on the time you went to sri lanka and paid kids to have intercourse with you, that you mentioned under the tag heuer article.

      • Bill W

        That’s a serious charge. Is this the quotation from Dinkee that you’re referencing?:

        {“My eyes are burning! I’m having a Tag Heuer Formula 1 flashback!

        Tag Heuers are little boy watches. Which reminds me to stock up on them for some gifts to hand out on my next visit to Sri Lanka.”}

        So, joke or confession?? Seems to me to be a not very funny joke. You chose to interpret it as a confession.

        • Thomas Halvorsen

          Open to interpretation, and given his other comments, completely believeable as a confession.

  • Dinkee, H. O.

    I have to admit it, I am torn by this election. On the one hand, Trump is right on most every issue and has practical solutions — his new contract with the American voters is the most astonishingly brave document ever issued by a presidential candidate. If implemented it really will pull America out of its downward spiral on the world stage. However, I am a globalist because my horology empire is internet-based, and if America is on its knees and the wealth continues to be transferred out, it makes no difference to me. For various reasons that trend is beneficial of us internet globalists (and mainstream media mega-corporations and China and left-fascists and a bunch of even more evil groups who follow a religious philosophy which must not be named for fear of being politically incorrect). It appears that Ariel Adams may fancy himself a globalist, too, or he would not have approved this Trump hit piece.

    I just wish I could have my cake and eat it too.

    • Marius

      My esteemed colleague,

      You made a very interesting point about internet globalists. I just want to add that besides being the number one watch blog in the world, Hodinkee is also fortunate enough to have a top-notch readership. According to Hodinkee, this is a portrait of a typical reader:
      “The typical HODINKEE reader holds a master’s degree or higher, browses from his professional office, earns more than $300,000 per year, owns 11 watches, and purchases, on average, three watches per year with an average value of $5,000 or higher per watch.”

      • Dinkee, H. O.

        I shudder to think about the profile of ABTW typical readership.

      • Thomas Halvorsen

        If mr dinky has a degree that’s not from the great school of internet and earns more than $100k a year, I’ll put ten thousand dollars in trumps campaign fund.

    • Thomas Halvorsen

      “Trump is right on most every issue and has practical solutions”

      I think you hit peak irony here, unless you subscribe to the elusive “eat the poor” mindset. Either way you’re a dumb garbage person with dumb garbage opinions.

      • Grady Philpott

        LOL!

  • otaking241

    Why did you have to adulterate my last remaining “clean” news feed with politics?

  • Beefalope

    This article is not safe for children.

    • EdipisReks

      It does indeed feature a confessed sex criminal. Too bad he’s a major presidential candidate.

  • drThrillman

    Went to Bilal Khan’s instagram – he has pictures of the “I’m with Her” pin buttons….shocking that the article came off as a slant for the Criminal, SHOCKING I SAY!!!

    • Beefalope

      Are you obsessed?

      Geez, some people take this waaaaaaaay to seriously.

      • Dinkee, H. O.

        From the person who just wrote an extensive 5 point rebuttal to one of my posts…

        • Beefalope

          I’m sorry. Let me debate on your level instead.

          Blah, blah, blah, BIAS!!!!!!, blah, blah, HILLARY!!!!, blah, blah, EMAILS!!!!

          Better?

      • drThrillman

        It pops up on instagram since I follow ABTW…..so it was a click of a button, and by accident, I might add, since I really tried to click on the article. But given your activity all over the comments board I find the irony in your “obsessed” comments to be rich. Thank you.

    • EdipisReks

      Go back to Breitbart.

      • drThrillman

        Go back to Salon, Oedipus. Two can play this game

  • Welcome to the ABTW fight room.
    Have fun, and remember to shower afterwards.

    • The Deplorable Boogur T. Wang

      And remember, if you’re fighting fair – you ain’t doing it right!

  • Raymond Wilkie

    This was fun.

    • Thomas H

      I thought so too.

  • cg

    BIAS ALERT! Thx Mr. Bilal Khan. I think you’d be better off writing about your beloved pop culture Kanye West or cancelled ? shows… Not watches or politics.

    • EdipisReks

      Another pussy grabber. See you on the 9th!

  • Bill W

    If only Chayton Marshall could vote. I’d ask him what he thought about all of this. 🙂

  • “the brands chosen by each reveal a lot about them” oh, yes, it reveals they both have money.

    • EdipisReks

      The Trump watches don’t really suggest that, though, do they?

      • Yes. Yes they do.

        Do you think anyone other than him wears that brand? So yes, if you saw the only person on this planet wearing a Trump watch, it would be Trump himself, hence his brand revealing and confirming at the same time, that he has money.

        • Thomas H

          If kickstarter is any indication, it really shouldn’t cost much to commission a watch brand.

  • DR

    Well, this little chat certainly took a turn while I was out enjoying the Geneva sunshine!

    I particularly enjoyed the praise for Scotland (my other-other home), where the time is always grievance-past-independence. You are all welcome to visit Muirhouse and Pilton to balance out any positive impressions of castles and bagpipes – they make ‘The Wire’ look like a promotional film for Baltimore tourism!

  • beardedman

    I think introducing politics (even if done by something as innocent as watches) was a big mistake. Any such article can never be about the watches themselves or their merits. I’m sure Bilal had good intentions, but there is no comment I can make about anything said in the article that could be politically inert. Then too, I enjoy watches as a *diversion*. I’ve already cast my vote and I don’t want to think of either of these people when I think of watches. I definitely don’t need to read the polarized vitriol in the comments that are already piling up as I type.

    • Bozzor

      Politics is always going to be fraught, but he did generate a lot of interest in this article and heaps of engagement. The advertisers will like it, so good for Bilal in bringing in extra revenue for the site!

    • EdipisReks

      Ah, a pussy grabber. Can’t wait to see you riot on the 9th.

      • Thomas Halvorsen

        The baby-boomer riots will make america great again

        • Fred Sanford

          Ironic comment is ironic

  • Timestandsstill

    I’m surprised that no one has brought up the change in Bill Clinton’s taste in watches since he stopped trying to portray himself as “everyman” in his Timex Ironman days. Or perhaps he kept his collection hidden for many years? It seems that he is quite into high horology as of late, including pieces from Panerai, Cartier, JLC, AP, ALS and more. If we were voting for good taste in watches he would certainly win this contest ….

    https://www.deployant.com/spot-the-watch-bill-clinton-the-42nd-president-of-the-united-states/

    • DanW94

      Interesting. Thanks for the link. It seems his personal appearance and speaking fees have certainly allowed him to step up his timepiece game….

    • Bill W

      I remember reading (here?) that he commissioned AP Equation of Times with “The White House” on the dials.

  • The Deplorable Boogur T. Wang

    “I think introducing politics (even if done by something as innocent as watches) was a big mistake.”
    Ditto !

  • The Deplorable Boogur T. Wang
  • I’m curious as to why a comment of mine was deleted – one that merely presented a verified Clinton quote that was germane to the topic of luxury watches. Surely the editors who publish political opinion articles are prepared for others expressing dissimilar, yet benign opinions?

  • G Street

    I want to hear what Bilal’s wife has to say.

    • EdipisReks

      Go back to Breitbart. Maybe grab a pussy on the way there.

      • G Street

        You free? 🙂

        • cmbezln

          roasted

          • Bill W

            …and deleted…

  • Ulysses31

    Neither of them gives a damn about watches. Trump watches make Invicta look spectacular. Next.

  • Mark

    Ariel, you and ablogtowatch have messed up big time. I was raised with manners, that being that you never speak about religion or politics in public forums. As I read Bilal’s article, I was really taken aback. If it would have just stuck with the watches they were wearing, I would have been fine with it. But to go off on tangents, as the article did, I find it quite devicive. Now I will not ever read an article that Bilal writes ever again, and I will question everything I ever read on ablogtowatch. Ariel, I understand that this blog is a business for you, and thus you want it to prosper and hopefully get to the point of having paid subscriptions. But with articles like this, you will never be able to hold creadibility, nor will you ever see my money.

    • EdipisReks

      “Creadability?” Go back to Breitbart. I can’t wait for you to riot on the 9th.

      • Mark

        Edipis, thank you for proving my point. I’ve never said which side of the fence I’m on, nor will I. This is what I and many other posters on this thread are saying. Let’s just keep the discussion on watches and a shared love of horology. And that is why I said credibility. All articles like this do is divide us, even though I believe it was meant in jest. For a forum so respected as awatchtoblog to sink to this kind of level of writing, it is very disconcerting.

        • Spangles

          “Awatchtoblog”, why I never! How dare you, sir!

          I say again, how dare you!

      • Grady Philpott

        Who’s rotting, I wonder?

        • mtnsicl

          Yeah, unbelievable isn’t it. They were worried about Trump destroying America, Trump possibly not excepting the results, Trump supporters rioting, Trump encouraging rioting. Now, Hillay supporters are rioting, destroying America and even paying people to riot. It looks like the Clinton days are over.

          • Bilal Khan

            Did I miss the Hillary riots?

      • Fred Sanford

        Who ended up rioting? lol

    • Hey Mark,
      Sorry that this piece upset you as much as it did. While I admit that the snark in the article is a little uneven, I did feel that the fact that one candidate had a watch line borrowing so heavily from iconic Swiss watch designs in quite a blatant way did in part justify the snark. That said, I do believe I avoided keeping any snark or criticism from actually being directed at the politics of/values of the people who vote for or support either candidate.

      If there’s anything I can do to make you feel more comfortable about reading my articles again, you can email me at bilal@ablogtowatch.com and I’d be happy to engage in a constructive conversation with you. In fact, that offer is open to everyone on this thread who has had a similar reaction. The snark was intentional, any personal disrespect (perceived or otherwise) was not.

      -Bilal

    • Bruce

      “devicive”? I can’t take any comment you write seriously anymore…

      • Mark

        Sorry Bruce, I meant divisive. Damn Siri and her autocorrect. I missed it before posting.

    • Bilal Khan

      Hey Mark,

      Sorry that this piece upset you as much as it did. While I admit that the snark in the article is a little uneven, I did feel that the fact that one candidate had a watch line borrowing so heavily from iconic Swiss watch designs in quite a blatant way did in part justify the snark. That said, I do believe I avoided keeping any snark or criticism from actually being directed at the politics of/values of the people who vote for or support either candidate.

      If there’s anything I can do to make you feel more comfortable about reading my articles again, you can email me at bilal@ablogtowatch.com and I’d be happy to engage in a constructive conversation with you. In fact, that offer is open to everyone on this thread who has had a similar reaction. The snark was intentional, any personal disrespect (perceived or otherwise) was not.

  • Hey Bilal. This was fun! Got anything else that runs a similar vein?

  • Thomas H

    President Bush constantly checking his watch! ?

  • Yanko

    Forget the watches. Look at their faces…and you may start running faster than Usain Bolt.

  • Rich Thomas

    Nicely done Ariel! If you can understand anything about a person because of the watch they wear, you just made a case for it.

  • Larry Holmack

    I inherited my dad’s Donald J Trump watch…just a plain multi-function watch, quartz movement. It is nicer looking than you would think, and not overly large, since my dad didn’t like large, heavy watches. My dad got it on one of his trips to the NYC area after he retired and was working as an Olympic Trainer for the US Olympic Shooting Team. He was quite proud of the watch and wore it to church and other events that he had to attend when he was an Olympic Trainer.

  • Bill W

    I’m not very keen on politics even being on ABTW, but can we disagree on this stuff without calling each other racists, domestic abusers, and sex offenders? This shit is going way out of bounds…. Can we at least try to come together over our hatred of Hublot or Bremont?

  • Lawrence

    Where is Bill’s Panerai?

  • Luke S

    I wonder if the Washington Post would write a similar op-ed about Obama’s Fitbit?
    .
    ..

    I didn’t think so.

    • Forever Great

      Wonder if it tracks how many cigarettes he still smokes a day.

  • CryptoReporter

    I was going to research what watches Hillary likes to wear on wikileaks, but CNN told me its illegal for anyone to visit that site. Ohhhh well. Thankfully Bilal did the work for us. It would be interesting to see what the FBI has to say about Hillarys watches.

    In other news I just spent the last week at Trump Tower Chicago. INCREDIBLE views, probably the best in the city. The restaurant on the 16th floor is now two star Michelin rated (and deservedly so, awesome food) and everyone working there was fantastic. I will be back. A great place to stay if you are in chi-town!!

  • mtnsicl

    So, I came back here to check out what was new as far as posts go about this debacle of an article. Was there ever anything posted by Ariel or the author, as an apology or an explanation? I’d be willing to come back if I heard the right thing.

    • Everett Meadows

      Lolol.

  • Fred Sanford

    Just stopped in to let you know Trump was sworn in as President, in case you hadn’t heard. Has Hillary started wearing her Rolex again? XD

  • Mike Orme

    This ABTW article would have been best left unpublished. OK you hate the guy and love Hilary and you had a perfect opportunity to have a pop because the guy is an egotist with no taste or class. But you had to go and do it and for what?

  • okulus

    GHWB was known to favor a Patek-Philippe manually-wound watch, a Calatrava IIRC. A mention of it in the papers (remember those?) back in the late ’80s remarked about the old-school winding method, even then.

  • RAND100

    If you don’t understand politics – as clearly you do not – you probably don’t understand watches either. Or people.

    Pretense is common, as you accuse others of it.
    You are clueless about all three subjects, but then no one’s perfect.
    EXHIBIT 1: http://tinyurl.com/hfcqcqr
    EXHIBIT 2: http://tinyurl.com/h8oyt62
    EXHIBIT 3: http://tinyurl.com/ku25fkz
    EXHIBIT 4: http://tinyurl.com/kq6czdf

    Do us all a favor. Stay away from reviewing people, watches, and reality.
    You may clearly be suitable to review cats.

    And the fact that Donald Trump will be your president for likely the next eight years, after which his children will take over. It’s gonna be YUUUUGE!

    • Bilal Khan

      While I’ve never claimed to be able to “review reality” I’d love to share some cat reviews with you.

    • Rob Logan

      Yeah, how you liking Trump now? The guy can’t even take a dump without permission from the Russians. Trump is an embarassment to this country. He has absolutely no idea how to be president. He thinks it’s another property or country club or tv show.

  • Cam

    At this point, is there even any question about the fact that the democrats and the Islamists are on the same side?