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IWC Portugieser Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month Watch Hands-On

IWC Portugieser Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month Watch Hands-On Hands-On

At least two things happened at Schaffhausen, Switzerland-based IWC watches this year. First, the Portuguese watch collection turned 75 years old. Second, the Portuguese watch collection decided that it wasn’t German sounding enough, so IWC changed the name of all Portuguese watches to the “Portugieser.” I’ve mentioned this before in past coverage of 2015 Portuguese watches – IWC itself is duly sympathetic to the confusion this name change and continues to remind people that these new watches are in fact the same old watches with helpful statements like “Portugieser (Portuguese)” on their website. The brand actually has a very nice website and their dedication to consumer education is truly laudable.

UPDATE: I am adding this to the article after its publication in regard to the “Portuguese vs. Portugieser” conversation. I spoke to IWC about this and while I still don’t believe I know all the details, the company apparently decided to change the name to the German spelling of Portuguese before potential legal issues trademarking the “Portuguese” might come up. Yes, from what I can determine no one actually went after IWC for using the Portuguese name but the brand’s attorney felt that Portuguese might not be protectable in at least some markets from a trademark perspective ans that is why the name was changed. With that information alone I agree the situation sounds confusing – but that is the latest… Back to the nice watch.

IWC Portugieser Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month Watch Hands-On Hands-On

As part of the 75th Anniversary of the Portuguese, ahem, I mean “Portugieser” watch, IWC has added this Portugieser Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month watch to the family of popular dressy, yet also casual, yet also retro-sporty timepieces. Available in three versions, each Portugieser Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month model is part of a relatively small limited edition totaling just 175 for the entire set.

To create this watch, IWC once again sifted through their parts bin looking for a combination of elements that they haven’t yet tried. This time around, the Portuguese (my apologies to IWC, some invisible hand seems to be preventing me from using the watch’s proper “Portugieser” name) has been fitted with IWC’s in-house made caliber 89801 automatic movement that we’ve seen in other watches such as the Da Vinci, Spitfire, and Ingenieur. Mr. Portugieser (it sounds like a Mr. doesn’t it) was perhaps feeling left out so now one of IWC’s best selling watch collections gets the “Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month” treatment.

IWC Portugieser Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month Watch Hands-On Hands-On

Despite adding a relatively inelegant addition to the title of any timepiece, the caliber 89801 remains one of the most interesting movements produced by the brand. What you essentially have is IWC’s in-house two-register 12-hour flyback chronograph movement with a special perpetual calendar module. Rather than dials to indicate the calendar information, IWC designed the 89801 to have discs which indicate the date, month, and leap year. I would have much rather IWC call this the “Big Perpetual Calendar Chronograph,” which is both true and plays on another popular IWC product which is the “Big Pilot’s Watch.”

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IWC Portugieser Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month Watch Hands-On Hands-On

What you have is a bi-laterally symmetrical dial with very easy-to-read windows for the calendar information that flank the chronograph subdial. That subdial contains two hands which register both the chronograph hours and minutes. IWC uses two discs for each of the two windows in order to make the information as easy to read as possible. When it comes down to it, what you really want to know is the date and month – which is right there for you to view. The leap year indicator is mostly only useful when initially setting the calendar information, and its indicator window is duly hidden in the subsidiary seconds dial over 6 o’clock.

IWC Portugieser Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month Watch Hands-On Hands-On

Viewed through the rear of the reference 3972 Portugieser Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month case, the manufacture caliber 89801 really looks great. Like a mini feat of modern industrial design, you really see what makes IWC distinctive in this movement. A power reserve of 68 hours is welcome for this level of complication – and it helps round out the assortment of complicated Portugieser watch models such as the more legacy reference 5034 Portugieser Perpetual Calendar which is impressive in its own right.

Unlike the classic and straightforward Portugieser Perpetual Calendar, the IWC Portugieser Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month has a cleaner-looking dial. Even though I feel that simply taking an existing case design and adding an existing movement to it lacks a degree of originality that watch collectors expect, the resulting product makes a case for itself with a strong, handsome look. Hell, if IWC wants to put all of their movements into all of their case designs, then by all means. I am still waiting for my Aquatimer Perpetual Calendar watch…

IWC Portugieser Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month Watch Hands-On Hands-On

IWC uses a 45mm wide Portugieser case for the Portugieser Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month and it is available in 18k red gold with a black dial, 18k red gold with a silver-plated dial, and in platinum with a silver-plated dial. Given the size and heft of the case that latter version is an impressively heavy watch. Attached to the cases are very nice Santoni alligator leather straps.

IWC Portugieser Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month Watch Hands-On Hands-On

When you want a movement-lovers watch with something classic, and yet still distinctive to a brand, the IWC Portugieser Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month is honestly the way to go. Just forgive IWC for the odd name game and the unoriginal premise of “if you love the Portugieser and the Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month movement, then we know you’ll love the Portugieser Perpetual Calendar Digital Date-Month.” Prices are $49,800 for the IW397203 (limited edition of 75 pieces) in 18k red gold with the silver-plated dial, $49,800 for the IW397202 in 18k red gold with the black dial (limited edition of 75 pieces), and $63,800 for the  IW397201 in platinum (limited edition of 25 pieces). iwc.com

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  • Skeletor

    Leap year seriously? More useless complications plz. The numericals on the dial are butt ugly. The rest of the dial looks printed and cheap. No water resistance, doesn’t even bother giving you a real bracelet. 50k for this turd.

    Who going to get this over a Rolex Daydate? Or better yet save 45k and get yourself a nice Grand Seiko with better finish, accuracy and quality.

    • The leap year is there so that the calendar will know when to advance the date by 2 or 3 days at the end of February. It is lacked this feature it would be known as an “Annual Calendar” instead of a “Perpetual Calendar”.

      The Rolex DateJust is not an perpetual calendar nor a flyback chronograph. So who would buy this watch? Someone who wants those features of course. The Rolex is really an apples to oranges comparison.

      Most chronographs have limited water resistance, so that is not a huge problem for this watch and its intended market and usage. But I will agree that 3 Bar (30 M) is not much.

      • Skeletor

        I didn’t say Datejust, I said Daydate. I don’ care what technical name is for the gimmick. And since the whole world buys Rolex, people already voted with their wallet. IWC is just another niche market for people who want to feel different in their cash burn.

        Now this is beautiful and actually has a purpose http://www.rolex.com/watches/day-date/m228206-0004/magazine.html

        • We all learn as we go, but the less you know about the types of watch calendars does not bolster your case for a DayDate in the least. Ignorance is a poor defense. Better sometimes to listen and learn with an open mind, then state an opinion from a better informed position.

          And the whole world does not buy Rolex (as in not exclusively). Part of what I like about watches is the diversity they present. So I’m glad that not everyone has a Rolex. Just as some people have voted with their wallets for Rolex, others have voted for IWC, Grand Seiko and even Hublot and Panerai.

          • Skeletor

            Rolex/Seiko is in high demand because it gives you everything you need. Reliable movement, water resistance, endurance, accurate, stylish and design that works.

            Has nothing to do with being open minded. Just business minded. The in-house movement from these niche watchmakers are Russian roulette, designs are not market tested, we have no idea if they are accurate and since they are not manufactured in high volume, they add significant premium to cover risk. So you are not paying for prestige or quality, all you paying for is risk/brand premium. I rather pay for value.

          • Thewatcher

            Iwc…niche?!? It might not be on the same scale as Rolex but it’s well established and is certainly not Russian roulette purchasing one of their watches. You sir are a douche.

          • Skeletor

            Well established to sucker at least one consumer. I pity you.

            http://gearpatrol.com/2013/12/10/opinion-iwc-lost-way/

          • iamcalledryan

            Douche credentials are impeccable . Horological credentials are below my 8yr old!

          • Skeletor

            I have a doctorate. So that’s Dr. Douche to you.

          • iamcalledryan

            Well it certainly ain’t in horology. Need to add “who are IWC” and “Richemont brands” to your next Google watch-catch-up.

          • Skeletor

            International Whaling Commission?

          • iamcalledryan

            We know you are here to learn, it’s just a shame you have to do it so noisily. You know, some of the people here really do know a thing or two. For example, Mr Carson, he actually manufactures watches. You are better off asking questions than making inaccurate statements. We are actually a pretty helpful bunch and it is clear that you are just starting out here, you will find that far more people help you out if you show a little humility.

          • Skeletor

            I’m humbled by your olive branch, unfortunately my heart is as cold as GS Snowflake dial. I will never surrender. I will churchill you till victory!

            I don’t like Carson name, reminds me of a republican candidate. If he changes it then we can agree upon a pact of non-aggression.

            But since I’m somewhat a nice guy I will show humility in this instant and ask… where do babies come from?

          • iamcalledryan

            Clearly humbled, have a nice life

          • resonator resonator

            Thank you. This forum is becoming as bad as some of the vitriol you’d expect to find on YouTube between creationists and atheists. Ablogtowatch has always captured a pretty high caliber of guests, and I don’t want this type of commenting to drive people away, and tarnish the sites reputation. There are some people here with an arcane knowledge of all things horology related, and will not frequent the comments section if this is what they have to wade through.

          • Skeletor

            Shouldn’t you be hiding in your backyard nuclear shelter?

          • resonator resonator

            Nope.

          • I_G

            Have you won it on poker?

          • Skeletor

            How did you guess? Did you lose to me?

          • I_G

            I guessed that special needs schools don’t provide doctorates so you had to get it otherwise.

          • Skeletor

            It takes one to know one.

          • Skeletor

            Your the troll since you going off topic to insult me. You need to be banned.

          • In that case (a value buyer), you don’t want Rolex either. While they are fine watches, they cost a lot so they violate your value proposition. You sound like a Seiko, Miyota or ETA movement buyer to me. I know where you can get a watch with an ETA 2824 movement. Reliable movement, high volume, decades of having the bugs worked out, parts and service worldwide and Swiss quality (meaning better than the Chinese clones of them) and better specs than many Seiko and Miyota movements. You do want bi-directional rotor winding, hand winding, 4 Hz operation and hacking don’t you? Surprising how many of those things are missing from a lot of Japanese movements (but they are getting better over time). But you would have to pay the Dr. Douchebag premium (reverse discount, ha ha).

          • Skeletor

            Rolex holds resale value. Rolex movements haven’t really changed drastically because they are market tested. Rolex also gives you fairest price Swiss made luxury sport. This is why buying a used Rolex DJ is just as good as a new one. Albeit that will change eventually with their new fancy movement becoming standard. Rolex maintenance and maintenance intervals are one the lowest in Swiss made luxury brands.

            All platinum including bracelet for 50k with one of the most accurate swiss movements is a very good price compared to junk being pumped from companies like IWC.

            I own a Rolex but will get rid of it for a Grand Seiko because of greater value in my quest for all purpose watch.

        • Shinytoys

          Beautiful watch that you linked for us. For many, the date just or day date has been the gold standard for decades. The IWC is more of a “Grail Watch”, and the design is magnificent. Two different animals in my opinion, each offering great merits.

        • Waikato7

          The whole world appears to be buying Justin Bieber and One Direction too. Voting with their wallet. I see what you mean.

          • Skeletor

            A ticket to see Justin Bieber isn’t 50k.

          • Waikato7

            Not really the point.

          • Skeletor

            That’s exactly the point. Justin succeed cause tickets sell. Young teenagers cant afford 50k watches.

    • iamcalledryan

      Wow, I guess today you will be learning about the term “perpetual calendar”. Seriously, read more, write less.

      • Skeletor

        I know what a perp calendar is. I just find it pointless in an inaccurate ugly watch. You going to correct time end of week/month anyways so doesn’t save you from any maintenance.

        • iamcalledryan

          Why will you correct a perpetual calendar at the end of the week exactly?

          • Skeletor

            Same reason you will do with any other conventional mechanical watch, inaccurate time requires adjustment end of week or month depending how bad your movement is.

          • iamcalledryan

            Even if you loose 5 seconds a day, which you won’t with a well produced perpetual, howw will that effect the date, month and leap? You can just nudge the minutes hand one increment once in a fortnight, no need to change anything else. That is a whole different exercise vs resetting a complicated calendar. By that rationale it’s like saying “why bother buying a chronograph, you will need to reset the time every few days?”

          • Skeletor

            My point was the watch needs to be adjusted no matter if it has a perp or non perp calendar. So it’s a pointless added complication not worth the price.

          • iamcalledryan

            Well some people need to know the date, others the moon phase, etc etc, that is the fundamental basis of a complication. Whether a perpetual calendar is pointless is down to your tastes and your appreciation of the complexity involved in executing such a complication, in other words subjective. Same with comments about price – not worth the price, for you.

          • Skeletor

            You can know the date with a non perp calendar as well, and paying additional 20k for leap years is retarded.

          • iamcalledryan

            Again, read about it, the perpetual is not to tell you it’s a leap year, it is designed to need no manual change of 30 day months or Feb months. As stated, every complication costs more and is down to the collector’s choice. Your need for a diving watch is just as “retarded” as you so eloquently put it. Welcome to watches, they are all more or less obsolete – this is about mechanical art, passion, and craft, not only immediate function – we have smartphones for that.

          • Skeletor

            Once again, you use a deceptive argument. So let me repeat, non-perp or perp don’t matter in a conventional mechanical watch, it loses accuracy over time so no matter if calendar self adjusts or not, eventually you will need to adjust the time anyway so the feature isn’t worth its time. Pun intended.

          • iamcalledryan

            No deception. You are making a valid argument – why bother with something designed to do X when the reality of a mechanical makes X less useful and Y exists today to do a much better job. My point is that this formula is the hidden oxymoron of all mechanical complications. Take minute repeaters – obsolete since lume. Take the chronograph, obsolete since the Quartz/atomic stopwatch. The most obsessively accurate and simple three-hand chronometer is always going to play second fiddle to your endless self-correcting smartphone. See a trend?

            So why are we here? Passion, art, craftsmanship, homage, heritage, investment, a marginal hint of function, quality, etc etc. watches stopped fulfilling a need several decades ago.

          • Skeletor

            What about Seiko Spring Drive, marriage of quartz and mechanical. So there you go, efficient watch for a very good price. If the swiss had created, all these swiss fanatics would be jerking off on their 250k Spring Drive from Swatch, claiming the greatest creation ever. But of course when Seiko does it, we have to poopoo and say its not mechanical to make swiss fairy land great again.

          • iamcalledryan

            Again, applies to the chronometer comment above. The mechanical addition that the spring drive makes to Quartz does nothing to improve the inherent accuracy of Quartz. Spring Drive is designed to appeal to the lovers of mechanical watches who also demand Quartz level accuracy. They do a great job, it is a fantastic design, but it has done nothing to improve the timekeeping that my smartphone, hell my microwave, already does. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about Seiko, yet if you had actually spent some time learning here before flying off the handle like an ADHD teen you would see that the marvels of Seiko are nothing new to most of us.

          • Skeletor

            Your microwave isn’t mobile, and your smartphone needs to be recharged every few hours, you would also need cell data to keep time updated with atomic servers.

            So all technology has a price to pay but that’s why some technology die off and some succeed and some redundant. For me wasting space for a perpetual with added cost of huge price mark up for something i can adjust myself in 2 secs isn’t worth its price. Besides, all watch lovers always try to find excuses to tinker with their watches anyways.

          • iamcalledryan

            Now you are changing the subject. The most important thing you say above is “for me”

          • Skeletor

            Oh sorry for most, I only look at the most successful brands to know what market demands, and very few actually make perpetual calendars cause very few can afford it or find it useful. But I will admit, its better than a useless tourbillon.

          • iamcalledryan

            You must have some skewed criteria for “successful”, a perpetual is among the 6 tenets of high horology and every heavyweight brand has at least one in their portfolio. Considering you didn’t know what one was this morning, I would hold off publicizing your “Skeletor’s list of successful companies”

          • Skeletor

            High whorology…sounds like a Game of Throne brothel. Is Tourbillon another? I guess the top complications are all useless, no wonder the mass market hasn’t embraced them.

            Oh and your microwave and smartphone both have quartz crystals to tell time. So quartz for the better part of the century is the defacto benchmark in accurate time. Until they can make viable atomic wristwatches, you can’t diss quartz.

            Kneel to your master!!! Seiko da best!

          • iamcalledryan

            You are making my point. Quartz is better at accuracy than mechanicals PERIOD. Where exactly did I “diss” Quartz?

            Time to google Hoptroff – holding your hand is giving me pins and needles.

          • Skeletor

            Yes and Spring Drive is a mechanical quartz watch!!!! It is the edge of mechanical watch technology. You say top complications are benchmark, well it took Seiko 30+ years with HUNDREDS of prototypes to master Spring Drive, if you don’t consider that the best complication than I don’t care for rest.

            Enjoy this Spring Drive 80s infomercial

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbmKZ5JXyjo

          • iamcalledryan

            Thanks, but I understand how it works.

          • Skeletor

            With the best quartz crystals in the world, and in fact as Seiko improves its quartz technology, so will it improve Spring Drive.

            And your Hoptroff is ugly. Why would I pay 650 pounds for a battery watch when I can get a 200-300$ smartwatch that can sync with my smartphone atomic servers and do more things!

            Let’s face it when it comes to self-perpetual mechanical watches, Spring Drive is king.

            Fully paid my Snowflake, Sir Winston cigar ready, soon it will be in my hands and I will be a god!!!!

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOsHoqhbUIU

          • iamcalledryan

            Hoptroff is an atomic watch, and I provided it as you seemed to think they didn’t exist, not because it is beautiful. Nothing much else to add to your ranting, signing off now, good luck.

          • Skeletor

            I believe you were saying something about mechanical watches being art, so your atomic watches aren’t mechanical, Spring Drive is.

            Look at this beauty, it even has a wonderful story.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m-5YpNUwgc

          • resonator resonator

            Seiko Spring Drive is a great innovation. However, in the event of a nuclear EMP burst, your very awesome spring drive will cease to function entirely, while my mechanical keeps on ticking away, providing reliable time. In this day and age, it’s not really a serious concern of mine, but it’s always in the back of my mind when buying a watch.

          • Skeletor

            Yes, in midst of nuclear war, if I am lucky not to die from radiation or get vaporized. How unfortunate it would be not know what time is lunch.

          • resonator resonator

            EMP can be accompanied with or without any nuclear surface devastation. Either way, it’s not a concern of mine at all. I’m simply making the argument from a technical perspective, not a survivalist/prepper worldview.

          • Skeletor

            I know what an EMP is and the only way we have to detonate an EMP without vaporizing everyone is by nuking the sky under a city. A standard procedure during Cold War to knock out enemies countermeasures. And guess what? Your pure mechanical watch wouldn’t work either because of the strong magnetism or very least tell time very innacurately.

          • resonator resonator

            Wrong on too many levels to continue conversation.

          • Skeletor

            Very easy to say someone is wrong without an explanation, you should work in politics.

          • resonator resonator

            I meant to ask you earlier, if you had a good source for used, or NOS GS. I’ve been wanting to expand my collection, but not seeing the models I want on the bay, and not familiar enough with that market, to dive in and just buy something from a random. Any suggestions? I’m assuming (maybe wrongfully) that you’re some Seiko enthusiast. I actually am a Seiko fan, and have a small collection going. Someday I hope to land one of their Spring Drive space watches. Just think the mechanism is fricking cool. I do agree that the Swiss would do well to take a page from their book, and come up with a competing tech, that marries Quartz reliability with mechanical characteristics. Those Hoptroffs are cool as hell too, but I’d only buy one as a collector. I doubt that will be a huge trend in the near future, and if they are really only around $1000, it might be a good thing to snap up while they exist. Oh, and I also agree that the IWC in the article is not a good value for the money. When you stop and think what else 50k will buy you, you could have an amazing piece from an independent, or several from your favorite manufactures.

          • Skeletor

            No I bought mine brand new for a good discount. I am not a watch collector, I buy one watch and wear it until either of us dies or I divorce it for something better. I will be selling my Rolex DJ so I can cushion the blow on the Spring Drive purchase. Before that I had a Must de Cartier watch which died on me after decade of abuse.

            Snowflake vs DJ
            Accuracy >
            Craftsmanship >
            Water Resistance =
            Materials >
            Maintenance >

            So for me it’s a huge upgrade for a small fee.

          • resonator resonator

            Oh heck. I think someone’s a little lost.

          • resonator resonator

            Hoptroffs an interesting brand. I’d really like to see one in person someday. Getting that Cesium module down to wristwatch size must’ve been a fun engineering task! I admit I am somewhat ignorant of how they achieved it, but I know the principals of how they work, and am really delighted to see someone miniaturize it for use in pocket and now wrist watches. I hope that someday soon, we get to a place where we can buy an off-the-shelf Cessium module from SparkFun or Adafruit!

          • Waikato7

            Exactly.

    • Waikato7

      What? You must be looking at different pictures? Dial is stunning.

      • Skeletor

        Broken 12, Broken 6, ugly font. pointless leap year circle. As if you going to check it everyday. Bad design, useless gimmicks.

        • Waikato7

          Change the record.

      • JimBob

        Gotta agree with Skeletor on this one. The dial has problems.

  • Nice – maybe my favorite IWC (for now anyway). I do wish they had made the sub-dials at 12 and 6 a little smaller so the numbers would not have been cut off. But otherwise, no gripes from me (except for a price I can’t afford – but which may be in line with its features, precious metal cases, etc.)

    • Boogur T. Wang

      An absolutely beautiful and balanced offering from IWC.
      Along with my favorite from this mark – the Portofino, IWC has done a beautiful job on this Portuguese model.
      Only 3 bar? who cares, it is not a “desk diver/sports/diving/snorkeling piece.” And I dare say that if one was wearing this and stumbled over the rail they would still be well within its safety margin.

  • WINKS

    45mm, no lume and only 30m WR… Bizarre proposition by today’s standards.

  • IanE

    I personally hate the date/month windows and the double scales for the chronograph sub-dial just look confusing to read and rather inelegant. Nice case, though, albeit rather large, but that’s IWC of course. I guess there will be an SS version sometime soon for the big-wristed who fancy a combined perpetual and chrono.

  • Ulysses31

    It’s clear and easy to read, something this kind of watch typically struggles with. The placement and style of the date and month windows seems a little unimaginative though. Agree with Mark about the cut-off numerals. Had the sub-dials been a hair smaller that wouldn’t have been necessary and considering all the empty space on the dial as a whole, looks a bit stupid.

  • iamcalledryan

    Outstanding config for a simple to read perpetual and chrono. Really like this as a very Germanic (sorry, Portuguese) alternative to the Genevan traditional layout.

  • SuperStrapper

    Stunning. Perhaps my favourite IWC from the Port line. I’ll just call the line Port. Which is a delicious drink offering I will be getting into soon as the cooler weather is arriving. I would have preferred piston-style pushers over the box ones, and I don’t need to see the platinum one to know I would prefer it over the coloured gold iterations.

    If your biggest complaint is a lack of lume and water resistance, you just don’t understand watches like this. Nothing wrong with that, this watch won’t be trying to please everyone, but lume would detract from this for me, and additional water resistance wouldn’t add any more value.

  • Gary Aerne

    I really like easy to read dial and automatic watch. Good looking !!!

  • BNABOD

    not a gold fan but the dial is clean, very classy and timeless. I would not mind seeing that puppy in white gold.

  • I_G

    Is there a French or German version of the dial? What if somebody doesn’t speak English.

    • Then I guess the case back would be hard for them to read also. Many times there is a mixture of languages on elements on Swiss watches which I find oddly amusing and discordant.

      • Skeletor

        I thought he was joking because everything is in numbers. Besides, french version would have theoretical numbers and nothing practical.

        • Date, Month, Leap Year, Swiss Made – all in English. So not everything on the dial is “in numbers”.

      • I_G

        Nomos doin’ it right. “Gangreserve 84 Stunden”. German watch, German text.

  • DanW94

    Looking at other perpetual calendar watches, they typically tend to work the day of the week in there somehow. I would have liked to seen that on this watch. Other than that I love the dial layout. I think the dual scales on the sub-dial at 12 is cool and I like the big date and month windows, reminds me of the date window on some of the ALS watches. I like this look a whole lot better than their Annual Calendar which had three small date apertures across the top of the dial.

    • egznyc

      Oh thank heavens – there are actually some comments about the watch reviewed here 😉

      This is a good-looking watch. Would guess that the platinum version is a little boring on a light background, unless they choose contrasting dial color elements carefully. The red gold with black dial sounds cool – at least if they use black backgrounds for the date and month wheels.

  • DocSanti

    My Rolex watches came with a soft cleaning cloth but it would be nice to include a small horsehair brush to scrub out dirt . I just got my own to periodically clean my watches without scratching them .

  • Lurch

    That is a really nice looking dial. I like the numbering on the dial the most. Similar to Baume and Mercier Clifton but somehow a little different.

  • Waikato7

    Beautiful watch. Love the movement. Quite a lame review though. First half was childish in my opinion. I could be wrong but that’s just the way it read to me.

    • Skeletor

      The review was honest unlike the watch itself.

      • Waikato7

        Please. You just sound bitter and are making zero sense. Trolls are tedious.

        • Skeletor

          What’s tedious are cheerleaders, and you’re not even hot.

  • Raymond Wilkie

    My goodness, what a lot of heated comments , i’ll save my remarks for the watch itself if that’s ok. I dont need it in gold, i dont need the chronograph, i dont need to be told the day and month, other than that, lovely watch.

    • Sorry, on-topic watch related comments have no place in this particular post. Please save your watch related comments for another post. Thank you for your cooperation Raymond. 😉

      • iamcalledryan

        Lol!

      • wallydog2

        So’s yer ole man!

    • egznyc

      So basically you’d like a simple three-hand version of this??? 😉

  • Larry Holmack

    I wish there was a picture of the rose gold / black dial version….it’s one of my favorite color combinations! The only IWC on my ” What Watches Would I Buy If I Ever Hit The Lotto” list is the Big Pilot…..but…I do like the looks of this one!

    • Skeletor

      i agree black dial and rose rocks

    • egznyc

      Yes indeed. As long as the date and month windows use black backgrounds. The platinum with light dial sounds boring on the other hand.

  • JimBob

    It’s no Zeitwerk.

    • somethingnottaken

      The Zeitwerk is unique (and is also my favourite watch, if only I could afford it). There is nothing else like it.

  • somethingnottaken

    It’s a beautiful watch with an unfortunate name. I much prefer the disk month and date display to the sub dials used on most perpetual calander watches.

    • egznyc

      The whole digital date/month display is really cool. Why? It’s simple to understand, simple visually, and makes me feel rather posh and European. Well, the posh part is more a function of “if I could afford this …”

  • wallydog2

    Changing the name from “Portuguese” to a more Germanic “Portugiser” is like changing “french fries” to “freedom fries”.
    Gorgeous watch.
    $50,000 is a tad steep for me…unless I turn to a life of crime. Hmm.

    • wallydog2

      Sorry, I meant “Portugieser”.
      Blame it on cheap chianti

      • Skeletor

        Portugieser should mean portuguese poltergeist.

    • Waikato7

      My Vintage Collection Portuguese has Portugieser stamped on the case. So it’s not really new. I guess officially it is but the name was already there.

  • Thewatcher

    Skelton, go and bone your snowflake. Oh wait, you haven’t even got it yet. Iconic design is more important to me than accuracy. COSC standard is sufficient. I would pick a portugieser over a snowflake every time. I wouldn’t spend 5k on a seiko watch ever.

    • Skeletor

      Would…should…could. If only you could afford either.

  • Herr Portugieser? Mister Portuguese? Yet, the only one I’d like to see is “Senhor Português”.

    Just loved this very symmetrical dial, with extra points for the chronograph hours and minutes joined in one subdial! I’m a bit sad about the 6 losing its head, though. Yet, even if the legibility is greatly improved, methinks that captions under the date and month windows are gauche and, instead, the month should be textual. Likewise, the leap year indicator should be graphic, not numeric. But, what am I talking about? This is a very good design and doesn’t have to be the enemy of an elusive perfect design.

    Too bad that it runs for over $1000 per millimeter of case radius…

    • Maybe because if he didn’t vote up his posts no one else would. Just a guess…

    • egznyc

      Where have you been? Thanks for the comment. The whole name change is pretty silly. I hope they got accurate legal advice, as I question why the trademark is better protected in one language than another. As long as this is a Swiss watch and not a Portuguese watch, I don’t see the problem here with either name, so why not keep the old name for the sake of continuity?

  • Raymond Wilkie

    Also, dont you American folks put the month first then the date. Why you changed it round is beyond me.

    • Boogur T. Wang

      American here:

      date / month / year. Always have, always do. Always will.

      America – making things simple for the world since 1776.

      • iamcalledryan

        I’m confused. The US definitely go month/day/year…

        • Boogur T. Wang

          Very common to do month/day/year…..but…I was raised in a military family.
          It was standard to do it day / month / year. It just made more sense and less confusion (for me at least) to go from day to month to year.

          • iamcalledryan

            Ok I understand and approve! I live in the US and work for the UK – so thank goodness for microsoft office adjusting it all in the background!

      • I_G

        Simpler? DIN-standard is the simple: 2015-10-05. Logical, easy to sort.

    • Lurch

      Almost everyone in the US uses month/day/year format. For example, 10/4/2015. However, just Boogur T. Wang writes, US military is different. When I was in the military, we were trained to write the date as 4 October 2015. There are probably many reasons for this (perhaps NATO etc) but the Navy radio messages always showed the date this way so I believe this was probably the reason. The time was always shown in Zulu (aka GMT not local) as well. I still find myself to this day using military date format, but obviously not Zulu time.

    • egznyc

      I’m American and I’ll admit when we do something that doesn’t make as much sense. Day – Month – Year is the most logical progression, although Year – Month – Day is more helpful when saving documents in a file and you want them arranged in chronological order. Month -Day – Year is the typical American order and only serves to cause confusion with everyone else (like the English system of measurement, long abandoned by the English and the rest of the world).

  • Waikato7

    I thought the States put month first??

    • Raymond Wilkie

      i just said that.

  • benjameshodges

    Ariel, here’s your Aquatimer Perpetual Calendar – http://www.iwc.com/en/collection/aquatimer/IW3794/
    I thought this was the original Digital Date-Month?

    This has probably been mentioned below but there’s too many troll comments to sift through to check.

    • Ariel Adams

      That’s right. We might even have some hands-on images of that. Did we not cover it yet?! That is actually one of my favs.

  • My preferred implementation of this calendar module is the Ingenieur line. The transparent “sub-dials” of the Ingenieur lead to a more symmetric appearance.

    I love this movement, and I love the Portuguese line, but the combination of the two is less than the sum of its parts. Aesthetics matter and the standard (Valijoux 7750) Portuguese Chronograph remains the gold standard.

  • egznyc

    What happened? Okay, I know, I saw the comments below.

    This is a good-looking, balanced watch that is simple to understand even though it has both a chrono and a perpetual calendar. Bravo. Now if they’d just knock off the final zero …

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