Rolex Daytona 116520 In Steel With Black Dial Watch Review

Rolex Daytona 116520 In Steel With Black Dial Watch Review

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The Rolex Daytona 116520 has been with us for over 16 years, from its debut in 2000 until its replacement, the part-ceramic 116500 (hands-on here) debuted in 2016. The steel Daytona has not only been a rare bird that Rolex has often made extremely difficult to obtain, but also an icon among luxury chronographs. I had one around for a couple of weeks and, not too long after starting to wear it, I asked myself the question: is the steel Daytona a real watch lover's watch? Has it aged well? Has it retained its magic, or has its fame made it let its guard down as competition became fiercer every year? Lots of questions on my mind, so I set off seeking answers.

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First Cosmograph Daytona, 1963. Source: Rolex

A Brief, Non-Teary-Eyed Recap Of The History Of The Rolex Daytona

There's a saying in Hungarian that, in direct translation, goes like "it's coming out my elbow by now." Although, come to think of it, I am not quite sure how this scientifically questionable saying caught on, the Daytona's history at this point may very well be coming out your elbow too – you have heard it so many times.

If you have no friends and want to make sure it stays that way, try and meet new ones in hotel lobbies, or on the internet, mocking everything, all the time. Alternatively, just learn these numbers and use them often at public gatherings: 6239, 6240, 6262, 6269, 16520, 116520. There are more of these Daytona references, but these shall already suffice to keep decent and fun human beings from spending too much time around you, should you talk about these frequently. The emphasis is on not calling everything by its reference all the time like a total douche – and not on being ignorant about watch history.

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Rolex Reference 4113 Split-Seconds Chronograph from around 1942. Source: Phillips

Although Rolex has been producing chronographs since at least the thirties, the Daytona's history can actually be traced back to the fifties, when Rolex made a few chronographs which they at times rather unimaginatively titled "Chronograph." The five lines of boasting on watch dials was but a mere dream at that point. Rolex appears to not really want you to know much about these ousted models – not one pre-Daytona chronograph is in their otherwise really quite detailed history page, nor is one in their yet more detailed history page on their press-only site.

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Rolex Monoblocco Oyster Chronograph Antimagnetic Ref. 3525: a medical chronograph in stainless steel from around 1941. Source: Antiquorum

In a nutshell, the so-called "pre-Daytona" history that you may want to know is the fact that the Cosmograph name Rolex registered as early as 1955, and that the reference 6238, introduced in 1961 (some sources say 1963), was a solid-looking Cosmograph that didn't yet have the Daytona name added to it. What Rolex does want you to know is the Rolex Cosmograph Daytona reference 6239 from 1963, the first "proper Daytona." It was nicknamed "Daytona" after Rolex's association with the Daytona International Speedway began in 1962. Still, to date, the full name of the Daytona is Rolex Oyster Perpetual Cosmograph Daytona.

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Rolex Daytona 16520 powered by a modified Zenith El Primero, circa 1997. Source: Luca Musumeci

Let us leap into the future, leaving the rest of Rolex Daytona history – filled with weird, fascinating and rare references – to you to research, and get straight to the Rolex Daytona reference 16520. Notice the 5-digit reference as opposed to the modern variants' 6-digit number. Introduced in 1988 and in production until 2000, the 16520 is often referred to as the "Zenith Daytona" as it was equipped with the Rolex 4030 caliber, a movement based on the Zenith El Primero that Rolex modified mainly by fitting a different escape wheel and hairspring, and by dropping its operating frequency from the El Primero's famed 5Hz to 4Hz. Before 1988, Rolex Cosmograph Daytonas used hand-wound, Valjoux-based calibers.

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Rolex 4130 caliber. Source: Rolex

2000 saw the debut of the Rolex Daytona 116520 and with it the famed Rolex 4130 caliber that is, of course, beating inside this review unit as well as the latest, 2016-generation of the Daytona. The dials and the bracelet have also been changed around 2000, but this is not a comparison between these earlier models, so let's concentrate on this review's 16-year-standing "Steel Daytona" – as is called in hush whispers among watch enthusiasts who have been familiarized with the stupendously long waiting lists and stratospheric, albeit reportedly self-inflicted exclusivity of it.

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First – and quite bad-ass – Rolex Cosmograph Daytona equipped with the 4130 movement, 2000. Source: Rolex

About Why The Steel Daytona Has Been So Difficult To Get

I mean, I dare not think how many articles, forum posts, Q&A's I have read and discussions I have had about the Rolex Daytona, and a lot of them at least touched upon this remarkable exclusivity of the steel Daytona. If you had the gold one it just meant you had more money to spend on it, but in watch enthusiast circles rocking a steel one to this day means you likely dedicated a lot of effort in hunting one of these down – if it were to come from authorized sources, that is.

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One thing I hand on heart do not recall reading or hearing is what could very well be the real reason for the limited availability of the steel Daytona: its movement (and, since its 2016 update, which we'll look at in a separate review, the ceramic bezel), that is very costly and difficult to produce. Time and again we see brands painstakingly develop complicated movements or other features which they will only make available in precious metal cased versions – even if other models of the same brand do come in steel. The reason behind this tactic is that the much higher mark-up on precious metal cases help cover the very high costs of both the development and the manufacturing of said new movements or features.

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Rods of 904L stainless steel. Source: Rolex

Just to find a most fitting example from Rolex's recent past: the new "Pepsi" GMT-Master II (hands-on here) with its bi-color, massive-pain-in-the-neck-to-make ceramic bezel, that (some say, and I agree) to date comes exclusively in white gold because the bezel is just too difficult and costly to make in the price range and in the volume of steel GMTs. Based on what I learned about manufacturing colored ceramics, I'll go so far as to say the source of the issue is in the pigments used to color it as pigments don't take the heat required to produce ceramic quite well and often form faulty areas in the surface. The "Batman" or "BLNR" is a modern steel GMT that has a bi-color ceramic bezel, but with two easier-to-produce colors. Okay, we got super side-tracked here.

All this was to say that steel Daytona supplies have been consistently limited likely because it has a movement that was and perhaps still is very difficult and expensive to produce up to Rolex standards at steel Rolex price points – even if the Rolex Daytona 116520's retail price has admittedly almost doubled between 2000 and 2015.

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Some Food For Thought Concerning The Daytona's Allure – And If It'll Last

Cutting straight to the chase, the Rolex Daytona 116520 changes its looks like few other watches do: it can quickly (and without notice!) transform from being one of the most versatile, elegant and sporty watches to one of the most boring and sedative timekeepers. I wish I didn't have to, but feel like I should, so I'll say that design preferences and the effects of a watch's aesthetic are down to personal preferences, so your experience may differ from mine – but I will say there's a good chance that some time into wearing the steel Daytona you'll come to a similar conclusion as mine.

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The Daytona provides one unquestionably iconic aesthetic and beholding a piece of that can feel both rewarding and infirmative. Here's my issue with it: most iconic designs that you see gazillions around you are only appreciated by die-hard fans and enthusiasts if said designs have fascinating details and numerous variables. Think of the 911, for example. It's everywhere, but you can change its specification, not to mention various special editions, limited production runs, technological variations and other factors; so, while a considerable percentage of 911 drivers may be yahoos who know nothing about the car, true enthusiasts remain loyal because there are always details that they find fascinating.

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Rolex Daytona 116520 In Steel With Black Dial Watch Review Wrist Time Reviews

This steel Rolex Daytona 116520, over its 16-years, I feel, has failed to offer a refreshing range of fascinating details – let alone offer many of them. Even tracking the serial numbers and production years have been killed off in 2011 with the introduction of soulless random serials. Rolex's reasons to keep things this very consistent are to be discussed in a separate article – because this does happen for a few logical reasons – but their cumulative effect on the steel Daytona ownership experience are very much relevant here.

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  • BrJean

    If you not satisfied with Daytona reading today I suggest this as a follow-up article: https://monochrome-watches.com/rolex-daytona-gold-ceramic-oysterflex-2017-personal-review-price/

    Personally I think that Daytona is the most well-known and recognizable chronograph in the world (beating Speedmaster by a narrow margin) and it popularity is deserved. The best ‘thing’ about it is the absence of date. The worst thing for me is curved bezel markers on the latest iteration. There is a lot of charm in horizontal markers (seen in this article) and too bad that Rolex changed it.

  • IG
    • Moonraker

      What’s that one known as in Rolex guy circles? The Steven Tyler?

      • Gokart Mozart

        I think you will find that is known as the “who gives a toss, its a Rolex”

        In the halls of Rolex headquarters it is known as “milking the cash cow with two hands”

        • Moonraker

          Aha, The Double Fistona.

    • Raymond Wilkie
      • IG

        Wow poor old Steven, looks much worse than a couple of years ago.

      • Moonraker

        Ma Wilkie is hawt!!

    • Kuroji

      Nothing says class like an iced-out Rolex.

  • Ulysses31

    Probably my least favourite Rolex model, and I am not particularly fond of most of them. The reason is i’ve learned over the years that this type of bezel ages badly. Cheap, generic looks and a solid case-back do a great disservice to what is otherwise a quality chronograph. I mean, wouldn’t it be nice if you could see it? Not that vertical-clutch chrono movements are anything new or special nowadays, nor can Rolex be bothered to decorate their movements in any meaningful way, but seeing the mechanism at work would be nice.

    • proudAmerican702

      +1. I’m a self-admitted Rolex hater. I think Rolex has been allowed to keep things cheap and dated, because demand is so good. I find the 3-link Oyster bracelet (my wife’s watch) to look like something taken straight from a $100 Seiko (no offense to $100 Seiko’s.) The luxuriousness, heft, articulation, and yes, expandability of the bracelet on my CF Bucherer Scubatec’s just blows the Rolex bracelet out of the water.

      Oh yeah, and the Daytona is tiny, as compared to other contemporary chronographs.

      • Word Merchant

        If you haven’t done already take a good look in person at a Rolex bracelet. They really are well engineered and extremely comfortable. The Daytona is indeed a bit smaller than the current norm, but still wears well. I have a Deepsea D-Blue for the days I want some heft. (And it’s been under water too – hard to give an exact depth, but I reckon at least 4-5 feet. The watch of course performed flawlessly.)

        • proudAmerican702

          Have done sir. The wife’s watch has an Oyster bracelet, and I’ve fondled quite a few men’s watches at the local AD. Cheers!

      • Mountainous Man

        First of all, as someone who’s owned everything from $100 Seikos to Rolex watches, you’re way off base on the quality.

        Secondly, you’re part of the problem of this nonsense “heft equals quality” trend over the last decade. If anything, Rolex has made their bracelets TOO heavy over the last decade, with overbuilt clasps and heavier links. An Oyster from the 80s will last the lifetime, while still being comfortable and lightweight. That awful Scubatec looks like it weights 200g+.

        p.s. I no longer own any Rolex watches. I’m just sayin’.

        • Moonraker

          As someone who doesn’t like a very heavy watch on my wrist, the “heft equals quality” trend bugs me a little too. Nothing against the gentleman’s Bucherer, of course. I just don’t need to be reminded of a watch’s presence on me at all times to know that it’s a good watch. Lightness works too.

          • Berndt Norten

            Lighten up baby
            I’m in love with LU (Chopard)

          • Berndt Norten

            It’s only a paper moon

        • proudAmerican702

          Glad to hear I’m “part of the problem.” Got it. SMH

  • Word Merchant

    As a steel Daytona owner myself, I very much enjoyed this well balanced article, and thought I’d weigh in with a few thoughts of my own.

    The Word Merchant household owns two steel Daytonas; I have the ceramic steel version, and the good Doctor WM has the steel bezel version. When the ceramic Daytona arrived (very quickly thanks to the sterling efforts of my AD), the good Doctor WM got first choice whether she wanted to keep her steel bezel version or ‘sidegrade’ to the ceramic. I’d get the other. She elected to keep the steel bezel, and I have to agree it looks better on her than it does on me. The ceramic looks better on me than on her, so a very easy decision was reached. But I’d have been more than happy with either. I think the Daytona in all its incarnations is one hell of a good watch.

    The Daytona is supremely practical to wear. The watch fits like a charm, the strap is – as ever with modern Rolex – beautifully executed and very comfortable, and the dimensions of the watch are a pleasant change from some of the beasts out there. As a serial moaner about ill-placed date windows, I find the lack of one quite calming, and as we are a multi-Rolex household, I still find it astonishing how accurate modern Rolexes really are. Wind them all up, synchronise them, wear them, check them at the end of the week – next to no deviation. Astonishing really. The ceramic Daytona seems no more or less accurate than the three year old steel Daytona.

    There are a couple of curious bits of design: the asymmetrical left and right lugs (the button-side lug has a slightly thinner profile to the non button-side lug – one you see it, you’ll never unsee it), and the angle of the chrono pushers appears a little steep to my eyes. But this is Rolex – possibly the most anal of watch companies – so there will be good reasons, and we’ll never hear of them.

    I admit: I am a Rolex fan; but Rolex got where they are today for a number of reasons, and one of them is that they make damn good watches.

    • Steve Loader

      Hi WM, re…

      “the asymmetrical left and right lugs (the button-side lug has a slightly thinner profile to the non button-side lug”

      …I’d imagine Rolex did this to balance out the visual bulk of the right side buttons by adding more width to the left side lugs.

      Just a guess, and as you say, we’ll never know!

  • Marius

    In my opinion, this article is a a splendid representation of the difference between the haves and the have nots.

    You see, the haves i.e people such as my good friend Roger Federer (aka the Federer Express, aka The Greatest Tennis Player Of All Times), Benjamin Clymer, Cara Bartett, John Mayer Lansky, and Jack Forster are already sporting the fantastic new CERAMIC DAYTONA. Some have aquired the ceramic Daytona by paying a premium; others have received the Daytona because they are worldwide celebrities. In any case, the haves wear the only Rolex chronograph worth having, namely the ceramic Daytona.

    On the other hand, the have nots are content with the older version. The 116520 is so passé that quite frankly I doubt that it would interest anyone except penny-pinchers and knuckle-draggers who cannot afford or procure the inimitable ceramic version. Wearing a 116520 in Monte Carlo is certainly a tabu subject, and a big no-no.

    As a personal note, my favourite Daytona has always been the 16500 series equipped with the great Zenith El Primero movement. For me, this watch has perfect proportions; an iconic caliber; and its price is constantly increasing due to the fact that fewer and fewer models are around. In my opinion, this watch has the potential of becoming a future clasic.

    • IG

      What about your old chum Steven Tyler?

    • Word Merchant

      On the other hand, the have nots are content with the older version.

      I don’t dare inform Doctor WM of this. She’s very much a ‘have’. But she really preferred the look of the steel bezel. I hope this can be overlooked the next time we visit Monaco. But if it can’t, I will do the right thing and cancel the trip. I have no wish to insult a nation.

    • Berndt Norten

      In the long run, the stats don’t lie: Fed’s the best. But we’ve been over this before. He has a losing record to Djokovic and Nadal. He is 3-6 against Nadal in Grand Slam finals. I think that we are living in the dying days of a golden age. The three greatest players in the history of tennis (Fed, Rafa, Djoker) are all over 30 and active. These three players have won 3 slams in one year. Djoker Man has won 4 in a row. There were a couple years where both Nadal and Djoker were unstoppable — even Fed couldn’t touch them. Ten years ago Fed was unstoppable. And now he’s back! I’ll be there ar Arthur Ashe to cheer him on. Look for me: I’m Paul Annacone’s doppelgänger

    • Moonraker

      That Cara Bartett is a piece. Eez a-fine timepeez.

    • Moonraker
    • Gokart Mozart

      After quite a while I disagree with you.

      The only Rolex chronos worth having are pre early 60’s. Anything with crown protectors or a tachometer bezel are an absolute no no. Ideally no Daytona on the dial.

      It’s like the difference between early tom and jerry cartoons against the recent remakes.

    • Kuroji

      Is it passé enough to be gauche or declassé?

  • BNABOD

    An iconic watch for sure but not one that particularly attracts me. As David points out the screw down pushers would drive me nuts. When I want to time something it has to be on the fly and if every time I have to unscrew these things then guess what I will just leave them alone. the bezel needed a refresher not just because steel is bad but just because it is such a scratch and ding magnet that after a few years would look like it has been through a meat grinder. thickness wise is where I like rolex, thin I like them thin there I said it. I agree though it does look dated and I like a date yup even on a chrono (aside from the speedmaster pro) so I would be missing the date. Some different color subdials sure would be an improvement as well and yes make it a see through case back, it is no Lange movement decoration but would be nice to see and would help w counterfeit as well.
    Anyhow I basically agree with David on this one and nice pics btw.

  • Raymond Wilkie

    Say what you like , but this watch leaves me bored rigid.

    • WINKS

      Only one thing to do when one’s stiff and bored…

      • Raymond Wilkie

        What would that be ?

        • WINKS

          Milkie the Wilkie!

          • Raymond Wilkie

            Oooook i get it,

            Spank the monkey
            Choke the chicken
            Polish your gun
            Five knuckle shuffle
            Milk the cow
            That sort of thing ?

          • WINKS

            Glad you had your Eureka! moment, if nothing else.

          • Moonraker

            Boxing your 6.
            Taking the Boa to Goa.
            Mowing with Malcolm.
            Rogering your Smith.
            Self-winding your Daniels.
            Going for a tour of the Island of Man.

          • Berndt Norten

            Brilliant as usual

        • Marius

          A tour of the local cemetery, of course.

        • IG

          Jumping in your Threewheeler for a joyride.

    • Word Merchant

      You need to put your iPad down, venture out and see if a nice AD will let you try one on.
      It’d need to be a gold variant – 7 year waiting list for steel in the UK.

      • Raymond Wilkie

        Why do folks make their profile pvt ! . Gives me less to work with for a good comeback !

        • Moonraker

          So that you can’t see my, sorry, I mean Marius’s comments on all those ladyboy blogs.

          • Raymond Wilkie

            You as well. What is it with people.

          • Moonraker

            Private profiles or ladyboys?

          • Raymond Wilkie

            Ladyboys i have no problem with, but why hide a profile on a watch blog ? makes no sense. …………………..moving on™

          • Moonraker

            “Ladyboys i have no problem with,…”
            I’ll remember that one for posterity.

  • Polerouter

    So the 4130 is a very good movement, designed with very few parts by one of the most capable industrial brands in Switzerland to replace already good and sturdy movements that they had all the time they wanted to study, and yet they don’t produce more because they are very difficult to make? Sounds like bad engineering… Sorry, but I can’t believe this excuse.

    • TheChuphta

      But this one says Daytona on it. Did you not see the provided picture of the movement?

  • TheChuphta

    I really like Daytonas. My gripes are not with the watch itself, but rather with the hagiographical tone of Rolex “reviews”. I want that documented because I have no milk for my coffee and now there will be snark.

    #1. People talk about waiting for these ceramic ones like they’re on some organ donor registry. “Praise God, I got the call today. After 17 months it’s finally here. At first I didn’t believe it but I ran out of work early and it’s true!” It’s a watch, not a pancreas for your daughter.

    #2. The Rolex 4130 is so good that they can barely even make it! Supposing for a moment that ludicrous assertion is actually true how could this be considered a smart business practice? It’s not a Lexus LFA. It’s a chronograph that does nothing many other chrono movements can’t do (actually less since there’s no date, day, etc). But it has 70% fewer parts! So that translates to easier production? No. Cheaper service? No. It’s well decorated? Tough to say because Rolex only uses plain casebacks (but herein will Rolex imitate the sun who doth permit the base contagious to clouds to smother up his beauty from the world). So it must be handmade, one-off haute horology? Nope.

    #3. Getting a steel Daytona is not the same as finding a unicorn horn, or a fragment of the true cross. It does not distinguish you as some sort of gentleman of descrimimating tastes and rare talent. You see them daily in NYC. Anyone with $14k and an internet connection could have one tomorrow. It only means you have bought (yes bought, not received from the Queen or an act of Congress) a very nice watch.

    Rant over. Happy Monday to you all.

    • Word Merchant

      Re #1 – I was very pleased to get mine, because, frankly it’s a damn fine watch. Am wearing it now in the sun, feeling slightly smug.

      • TheChuphta

        It most certainly is an excellent watch and I am glad that you are pleased with your purchase. Mr. Brendan mentions its “stratospheric exclusivity”. Were you forced to enter orbit or were you able to source one terrestrially? (This is only a knock on some of the absurd proclamations in the article, not on you, or your watch).

        • proudAmerican702

          Word Merchant can’t give specifics—but there’s a hole in his abdominal cavity, and that pancreas for your daughter is now available. 😉

        • Word Merchant

          Thanks to a very able AD. Had my name down 30 mins after I read of the announcement.

        • SuperStrapper

          Why would a comment like that have to be taken so literally.

          • Kuroji

            A strange hill to die on.

  • Phil leavell

    Well written really enjoyed the article. I personally am not fond of Rolex my wife likes her Pearlmaster diamond things good for her. Then again I’ve also seen her wear my Seiko alpinist . I guess I’m a knuckle Dragon cheapskate.
    But if you throw Splash orange on this and look just like an Omega LOL

    • Berndt Norten

      So you’ve given your wife diamonds and pearls?

      • Phil leavell

        I will get my wife almost anything she asked for I love her she has great taste and has some Exquisite pieces of twinkle ( never called it bling )
        Okay maybe way back 1980 she had a momentary lapse in taste but it worked out okay for me LOL I hope everybody finds someone to love and have it last a lifetime

      • Phil leavell

        It’s kind of the case of the
        Frog and the Butterfly

      • DanW94

        He’s a prince…..

      • Gokart Mozart

        Everyone deserves at least one decent Prince album so she should be greatful.

        Slightly off topic but it is ashame there was no Prince Daytona version or any version of any watch to show off his genius. Would hos take have been better than Lennys or just better than Rolexs?

        • Phil leavell

          pearl necklace ( ZZ Top )??
          Screw Prince

          • DanW94

            Dude, I’m rocker from way back too, but Prince was in another universe. ZZ could guitar rock with the best of them but Prince was light years ahead of them musically.

          • Phil leavell

            Okay I’ll take away for pearl necklace.
            And just let her wear her Raspberry beret
            What about the pearl necklace
            Moonraker come save me I’m going Kravitz

          • Berndt Norten

            Nothing compares
            Nothing compares
            To Him

          • Berndt Norten

            Thanks Moonraker, I mean Phil

          • Moonraker

            ?
            Just because I think Trevor is Dinkee/Skeletor doesn’t make me Phil. No offense to Phil, I love his schtick, but I couldn’t make that little sense with a team of writers helping me.

          • Berndt Norten

            It’s ok. I think I believe you.

          • Moonraker

            You don’t have to believe me. But you can’t be-leavell me.

          • Phil leavell

            Ooo I have been weighed and I have been measured and left nothing but wanting wanting wanting LOL

          • Phil leavell

            No offense would ever be taken, I admire the speed of which you transpose thought into written word . The clarity of which I could never achieve due to the Trainwreck within my mind. Even I would never be so foolish as to let loose that lid and let it run free. LOL

  • Omegaboy

    Love it in the steel. If we didn’t have a mortgage, I’d buy one.

  • Bozzor

    Someone very wise once told me…”Pretty much all Rolex watches go through the stages of new, established, out of style, hipster, vintage, iconic, legendary…”

  • Yan Fin

    Nice write-up. To me steel Daytona is status symbol. And the status is ” I am boring, totally lacking fantasy and imagination, but perfectly capable of spending $12K on a complication I would not ever use for real”.

    • Gokart Mozart

      Nothing wrong with spending 12k on a chrono just would not do it on this one.

      Good technical movement in need of a good home.

    • Word Merchant

      Repeat after me, Mr. Fin.

      “I breathe in my envy and breathe out my love… I breathe in my jealousy and breathe out my joy… I breathe in my bile and breathe out my happiness… I breathe in my envy and breathe out my love… I breathe in my jealousy and breathe out my joy… I breathe in my bile and breathe out my happiness… I breathe in my envy and breathe out my love… I breathe in my jealousy and breathe out my joy… I breathe in my bile and breathe out my happiness… I breathe in my envy and breathe out my love… I breathe in my jealousy and breathe out my joy… I breathe in my bile and breathe out my happiness… I breathe in my envy and breathe out my love… I breathe in my jealousy and breathe out my joy… I breathe in my bile and breathe out my happiness… I breathe in my envy and breathe out my love… I breathe in my jealousy and breathe out my joy… I breathe in my bile and breathe out my happiness… I breathe in my envy and breathe out my love… I breathe in my jealousy and breathe out my joy… I breathe in my bile and breathe out my happiness… I breathe in my envy and breathe out my love… I breathe in my jealousy and breathe out my joy… I breathe in my bile and breathe out my happiness… I breathe in my envy and breathe out my love… I breathe in my jealousy and breathe out my joy… I breathe in my bile and breathe out my happiness… I breathe in my envy and breathe out my love… I breathe in my jealousy and breathe out my joy… I breathe in my bile and breathe out my happiness… I breathe in my envy and breathe out my love… I breathe in my jealousy and breathe out my joy… I breathe in my bile and breathe out my happiness… ”

      There! That’s much better isn’t it?

      • Yan Fin

        Namaste to you too. Hope it will pass.

    • Refman

      What an idiotic comments. I have watches from FP Journe, Patek, AP, A. Lange & Sohne, Jaeger Le Coultre, and I also own a steel Daytona, it’s actually one of the cheaper watches I own. I didn’t buy it because it’s a status symbol, I bought it because I love the look of the watch.

      • Yan Fin

        Case and point. Put a sticker on your lapel.

  • Larry Holmack

    I guess my bad experience with my Explorer II has soured my opinion of Rolex. I used to dream of owning a Daytona, and now the thought of owning another Rolex makes me ill.
    Your article is a nice read David, but this version is downright boring.

    • TrevorXM

      What happened with your E 2 ?

      • Moonraker

        You should block him and then you’ll never know the end of the story. 🙂

      • Larry Holmack

        Long story….but to make it short. The movement started sticking and then stopped all together within the first 4 months I owned it…( Yes….I purchased it from an AD back in 1987 ). So…took it back… after not being able to fix it locally, they sent it back to the Rolex. I assumed they fixed the problem after I got it back. 4 months later…like “clock work”…it stops again. Again the local AD can’t seem to solve the problem…so they send it back. By the time I get it back and 4 months later it stops working once again….I take it back to the AD. They now want $$$$ up front to send it back since they know they can’t fix it. Finally…I get tired of shelling out $$$$ to have the same problem fixed over and over again….and I put it back in it’s original watch case…and shoved it a drawer. I moved to New Orleans in 1997 for work….and still had the watch which I shoved in a drawer. After getting married in 1999, 6 years pass until Hurricane Katrina hits the New Orleans area. Of course we evacuated to Houston…and 3 weeks later when we were allowed back into the area….our home had been ransacked. And yeah..my E 2 was stolen along with my other nice watches that I failed to take with me when we left. I got the last laugh…because whomever stole it got a crappy watch that hadn’t run for at least 15 years, and since it was reported as being stolen…I got the insurance money for it, and my other watches!!!
        I always wondered why in the hell didn’t Rolex just take out the original movement and put in a new one and be done with the problem movement?

        • Mark1884

          Glad to hear you at least got compensated from your insurance company for the watches!

  • SuperStrapper

    Great article. Read the whole thing, even though I knew before word 1 that the subject matter doesn’t exactly interest me as I’ve never been truly fond of this watch.

    I used to think the rarity claims on the steel variants were some kind of inside joke I didn’t get, because I knew and know so many people that have one. I have 9 customers in Montreal alone with that exact black dial reference, I just assumed it was actually the easiest rolex to obtain and the scarcity claims were a tongue-in-cheek offensive on being the owner of a common watch. Not so much I eventually learned.

    There’s a lot to enjoy about it (and it is very comfortable to wear) but the bits I don’t like are what drag it way down into the meh category. #1 has to be that steel bezel, which has always looked awful to my eye. The ceramic update is far more attractive as I’m concerned, but for now that is cancelled out by the tedious pretension that surrounds it, somewhat identified in Marius’ fraudulent comment below. That overused glob of satire sums up the atmosphere around the Daytona update decently and just makes the watch gross to consider, because who want to be associated with such childishness?

    I think if rolex did an update that included some dial colours, like they did with the datejust update, then maybe some people with a personality would be interested and it could be fun. Of course I just took rolex so far out of their comfort zone that I might cause some hyperventilation, or possibly a lawsuit for revealing the 2021 Daytona update that will take 25 years to accomplish.

  • Steve M

    I feel we are due for a new generation of the Daytona. A 42mm with more lume and a 45min register like the new Tudor BB Chrono would be realy revolutionary.

    • Moonraker

      Interesting…. I don’t see them going the 45-minute chrono route but you never know. Imagine if they upsized it and squeezed a cyclops in there somewhere? Watching that fallout would be fun.

  • John Stevens

    It’s a great watch but I’ve never been a fan of the stainless steel bezel, it looks like an actual stamped tool and I don’t mean watch. Rolex have perfected more than any other company the vision that less is more and less is also more expensive.

  • Ranchracer

    I guess you’re either a Rolex person and “get it”, or you’re not and you don’t. I certainly fall into the latter camp. My next purchase will be in this price range and Rolex is knowhere near my list. IWC, Zenith, Omega, Breitling, and RGM, among others, all make much more exciting time pieces with fantastic in-house movements in this range. I suppose if I was ever lucky enough to win the 24 Hour, I might wear my Daytona a couple of times before selling it and buying something else with ACTUAL anti-reflectivity, a decent bracelet, etc., etc. You definitely DON’T get what you pay for when it comes to Rolex. You’re buying a name, plain and simple. If, on the rare occasion that an individual even NOTICES that I’m wearing an actual real watch, I’d much prefer that they notice it for its beauty and uniqueness, not even recognizing the name, rather than just seeing that’s it’s a Rolex and making certain assumptions about me.

    • SuperStrapper

      RGM is a dirty word here.

      Ok, its an acronym. Still dirty.

  • Berndt Norten

    The appeal of this watch and all variations on the theme has always been an unsolved mystery in my mind. Is it elegant? No. Is it restrained? Nyet. Is it seductively symmetrical? Pas de tout. Is the movement Lange-like? Um…she’s fully clothed and there’s not much under the bonnet. Help me to understand. Could it be the….name? Some philosophe, not sure who but probably d’Holbach, said that the true tyrant needs no chains to imprison others but rather uses his ideas. Gramsci elaborated on that, suggesting that elites provide the conceptual spectacles and hegemonic discourses which enslave the masses, impoverishing their sense of what is possible to achieve.

    For Rolex’s asking price, so much more is possible. Shed your mind-forged manacles, my ABTWers, and ? this watch! (There, that will earn me friends and respect!)

    • Phil leavell

      What aren’t you fisticated it’s a Rolex ain’t that supposed to be a symbol of class culture and richness. What’s the matter you live in under a rock this here watch give ya status

      • Sheez Gagoo

        I really have to check if “fisticated” is a real word and if it means what I think.

        • Phil leavell

          I wholeheartedly believe you are not fisticated and never have you been fisticated & never do you want to be. It is a made-up word making light of a seriously painful physical action that no one in their right mind with enjoy I hope

      • Berndt Norten

        A ventricular fistula is no joking matter!

        • Phil leavell

          Truly better to give than to be receive

    • Sheez Gagoo

      The magic of a Rolex is it’s carefreeness. It is Japanese in it’s mind, once on your wrist, it will last for a very long time without annoying you. A mech. G-Shock. But almost no (almost! I wrote almost!) no better than a similar Seiko.

      • Berndt Norten

        The magic of a Rolex is literally the alchemist-like way in which a company takes solid, well-engineered, reliable, BORING designs, produced at the rate of 100,000 watches per month, into a ‘rare’ super valuable item. Riding through the valley, singing to my soul, there’s people out there turning steel into gold.

        Ooooh, this one has RED on its dial. That’s so RARE! Ooooh Ben and John, let the salivating begin!

        Gag me with a spoon.

        • Moonraker

          I think it’s more like 70,000 per month, which is more rare than 100,000. Like really rare.

          • Berndt Norten

            Here I stand, corrected

          • Moonraker

            My pimp has a Rolex and I know I don’t bring him in much money, so how exclusive are they, really? Patek Philippe wouldn’t even let him swagger through the door.

    • DanW94

      We’ve all been target Marketed into submission and compliance. We just don’t know it….and we’re happy in our ignorance. Hey look! A Daytona with a ceramic bezel!! (I want it and I don’t know why)

      • Berndt Norten

        You want because John Mayer and Ben Climber are your idols

        • DanW94

          No thanks, I’ll pass on that Daytona inspired circle jerk.

          • Moonraker

            It was more of a line segment jerk.

          • Kuroji

            Irregular polygon jerk.

          • Berndt Norten

            Good one, Slim Pickens.

          • Kuroji

            Yeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaw!

          • Berndt Norten

            But….just look at those dangerous tattoos on Mayer’s arms. Doesn’t it lend him a certain je ne sais quoi?

          • Kuroji

            Indeed, I literally don’t know what.

          • DanW94

            His body is a blunderland.

          • Moonraker

            To Marius:

            Mongers, be good to your ‘deeboys
            And ‘deeboys might care for you too
            Boys become lovers who’ll one day be mothers?
            So mothers be good to your mongers too

          • Berndt Norten

            That’s twisted, sister.

          • Moonraker

            I wanna run through the halls of my prep school
            I wanna scream at the top of my lungs
            I just found a mint Newman Daytona
            It’s the watch whose praises I have sung

            I just can’t wait ’til my 10 year reunion
            I’m gonna bust down those gilded doors
            And when I flash that Daytona before you
            You will know that I’m like so not poor

  • TrevorXM

    Never felt any attraction to the Daytona overall. I like the looks of the simple “Paul Newman” version, but those are all tiresome manual wind and old watches needing servicing which they’ll never get because a pack of phoney internet rich boy poseurs have bid the prices up to full idiot level, and they don’t care about actually using the watch except to pull it out once every few months for a poseur party or another Instagram shot.

    The new ceramic version has improved the looks a lot, and makes this steel one look even more lame.

    Also, it needs a date.

    • Phil leavell

      I can understand you needing a date……. And if you save long and hard I’m sure you’ll get one cheers
      Try just being friends first !

      • Berndt Norten

        Why can’t we be friends
        Why can’t we be friends?

    • Kuroji

      But John Mayer.

  • Phil leavell

    Just the other day down in Chinatown I found this very watch on a reputable cart. I’m not into bling or trophies but I thought the $35 was a rather reasonable price. But I left it there because it’s not something I’d wear.

    • Berndt Norten

      Meanwhile, back in Paris
      I was embarrassed

      • Phil leavell

        Babe

        • Berndt Norten

          Moon river….

  • Ross Diljohn

    I really don’t like daytonas primarily because of the bezel.

    • Kuroji

      Yeah, I can’t get behind that thing.

  • Moonraker

    R.I.P. ABTW 1-Pagers

    • IG

      3-pager is the new 1-pager.

      • Moonraker

        I actually like a 2-pager, but the Apple of my eye is a 4-pager: https://www.ablogtowatch.com/apple-watch-review-chapter-3-one-year/

        • Raymond Wilkie

          A year on and my opinion hasn’t changed.

          • Moonraker

            I actually remember your comment. And I still agree.

          • Gokart Mozart

            I don’t remember Raymond’s comment but if its about the iwrist device, and knowing Raymond (not like that), i semi cautiously agree.

          • Moonraker

            And, going back over those comments, you were the only other one to mention Ariel somehow getting 4 pages together about Apple. So well done, because that was ridiculous.

          • Moonraker

            Speaking of about a year ago, Gorilla is baaaaaaaack! https://www.fratellowatches.com/gorilla-fastback-collection/

          • Sheez Gagoo

            Fratello is a corrupt blog, ruled by a corrupt watch media mafia, paid by SG.

          • Moonraker

            Singapore? OK, I’ll take out the link, but the point remains: Gorillas are not yet extinct. A few have been spotted.

          • Sheez Gagoo

            I found one! He kidnapped my girlfriend and throws barrels at me!

          • Phil leavell

            Jethro likes
            Bungle in the jungle !

          • Berndt Norten

            Gorilla Monsoon is dead. That’s all that matters to me.

          • Moonraker

            It is a disorganized blog too.
            #BadLayout
            #CorruptyMonday

        • Berndt Norten

          Ok I get it

        • Berndt Norten

          Carefully or I’ll get all Stevie on u

          • Moonraker

            You are the punshine of my life. That’s why you’ll always be around (or at least until the next Kravitz article).

    • Raymond Wilkie

      Like the last feature ?

    • Berndt Norten

      ??

  • Chaz

    A helluva writeup on a watch that’s been hella written about by anyone and everyone.

    It’s a textbook example of manufactured mass hysteria.

    • Kuroji

      Que?
      “In sociology and psychology, mass hysteria (also known as collective hysteria, group hysteria,
      or collective obsessional behavior) is a phenomenon that transmits
      collective illusions of threats, whether real or imaginary, through a
      population in society as a result of rumors and fear (memory
      acknowledgment).”

      • Berndt Norten

        Go back to sipping your ‘nac, reading Le Bon, and listening to his whiny screechy singing too?

        • Kuroji

          It was pure reflex. The Reflex. The Reflex.

  • Gokart Mozart

    I have to give David some credit, being an interesting article that did not really go as I expected.

    After seeing theintro to the article it was not really an a#% kissing article about Rolex and for that we should be grateful.

    David, Ariel this is more along the articles I think us readers want. I have not read all the comments but about 20 of them, and it was very civilised.

    Give a reasonably balanced review, and cut back abit on all the sponsored content, and you will see the benefit among your readership in less nastiness and trolling, if not off topic comments. Sponsored posts have really ramped up recently.

    A good article.

    • Phil leavell

      I agree 100% with you, thank you stated it and way that I could not have thank you. And it has been refreshing to have articles written that aren’t full of commercial bias towards the product

    • Ariel Adams

      Let me respond to some of what you said coming from the perspective of the people running aBlogtoWatch. First and foremost the entire community needs to immediately understand that aBlogtoWatch (like most media these days) is fundamentally stuck in an uncomfortable position sandwiched between its audience and its advertisers. The audience is our most important asset while the advertisers are where operating income comes from. The discomfort comes from the fact that giving the audience what that want is often directly in contrast to what the advertisers want. So our entire existence is about balancing the two. Trust me, I would must rather simply work entirely for the audience.

      I’m not in the position of members of the community (so there is a perspective bias since I see things differently), but I don’t see what all the problems with Sponsored Content are side from some misunderstandings. They are clearly labeled (and our desire is to make them more clearly-labeled), and come from the perspective of the advertisers.

      Why do we need Sponsored Content? We need money to run the site. We are fortunate that this type of advertising is both affordable and successful for our advertising clients, and I fully support that each of them has appeal to at least some of our audience. The issue I think is in that our more seasoned watch collector audience would like more ads relevant to them, from the more established brands. Until now, it is more or less been the news, savvier, and more agile companies who understand how to make the most of them.

      We regularly suggest to more established brands to use Sponsored Posts to tell our audience about events, sponsorships, ambassadors, promotions, etc… that is marketing information they want to share that isn’t related to a watch review or introduction of a new model. There is a lot of news going on from the brands that you never hear about, because it is improperly marketed. My hope is that in the near future, Sponsored Content will be increasingly relevant to more of the audience, as more established brands take advantage of them.

      All our talk about the watch industry having a hard time isn’t because I like to find controversial things to talk about. The watch industry is going through major issues right now, I am doing my best to be a force of positive change, and part of the issues this business is facing is vast reductions in marketing and advertising spending. That means watch media publications are either going away, changing their business model from media to being a retailer, or engaging in advertising relationships that are not in the interest of consumers. For each clearly labeled Sponsored Post that the audience might not like to see, they aren’t aware of the all the times aBlogtoWatch has rejected income because a brand simply wants to pay us to write positive reviews about their products. So the sad irony is that while we attempt to navigate the difficult waters of the watch industry’s current economic environment and bring as much honest, useful information as possible to consumers – we are attacked by those consumers for each and every way they see us failing. It is honestly rather demoralizing given the group effort aBlogtoWatch employs to protect the utility of the site for the audience, our enjoyment producing the content, as well as our ability to keep paying the bills.

      While we continue to explore new revenue models that allow us to maintain and grow (we sure could hire a lot more people) we need still make money. I am committed to making sure that aBlogtoWatch editorial is always distinct from advertising content, and I think most aBlogtoWatch audience members know that. The anger and impunity we see in the community seems misdirected since we are not an enemy to the community. For example people who don’t like watch industry pricing conventions get angry at us. We don’t set prices. If anything consumers do by voting with their wallets. Why get angry at aBlogtoWatch if an individual sees an opinion they don’t share, or product information they don’t like. Would they simply rather not hear about it? I don’t personally get angry when I hear something I don’t agree with, I mostly simply take it as a different perspective that has merit to someone else but not always me. I say all this because I feel people in the community can sometimes get super angry simply because myself and our editorial team doesn’t share their own opinion. When people share this in a civil way we are thrilled to engage. When there is hostility and anger, we just get defensive like any other set of human beings would.

      In summary, if you like aBlogtoWatch then realize that as a business we have bills to pay. I make sure we earn money in as honorable and ethical a manner as possible. If that sometimes means ads which aren’t relevant to the entire community then let’s work on that issue together. If the community feels that we haven’t made sure Sponsored Content is clearly labeled enough – then let’s works on it together. It isn’t anything we did to be deceptive, but rather that the core tools built into WordPress don’t make it that simple have some posts looks entirely different from others. We don’t want anyone to feel as they they don’t know what is and what isn’t editorial.

      Again, let’s work together when there are problems and focus on a more cooperative versus hostile environment.

      • Raymond Wilkie

        I see no need for you to keep defending yourself on this matter of sponsored posts and leaning towards certain brands.
        Let them run a site see how difficult it can be to keep the content flowing, how much of your own time is spent on keeping the site up and running and keep everyone happy……………it aint gonna happen.
        It’s true , some have gone off topic on occasion but thats just friendly banter ( local colloquialism ) and i for one like it.
        Keep what your doing Ariel.

      • Berndt Norten

        Hi Ariel. Thanks for your detailed post. I think two things would help.

        1). Rename to ‘Advertisement’. That word worked just fine for a century. The use of the word ‘post’ confuses the issue. It’s an ad. Call it that. A post implies freedom, expression, a certain amount of literary license.

        2) on that note, no more deceptive license allowed to the advertisers. It’s an ad, not an essay. By allowing paid advertisers to write in the style of a formal review, you allow them to blur the lines, commit word crimes. You need a strict set of rules spelling out that this is an advertisement not an essay. Gradgrind–just the facts. No spin.

        These two changes would earn ABTW a lot of respect.

        • Raymond Wilkie

          Advert , sponsored post, it’s just semantics . I see no confusion.

          • Berndt Norten

            No it’s not Raymond. A post implies authorship. There is a reason automobiles are no longer ‘used.’ I’d venture to say that 20% of the readership doesn’t know what ‘sponsored’ means.

          • Phil leavell

            Only 20% intellectually challenged. I think Ariel is aware more than you’re giving him credit for when posting a sponsored blog, adversely the challenges is to us and he gives us a lot of leash to play with I don’t think he often has to snap the collar on our neck to put us back in line we do it well ourselves. Which makes for some very interesting readings unlike the yo Donkey Nation worst strict control his cap and is a very boring place, I actually went back and looked at it today I found it very technically informant but boring as hell. This site has all that and more and we couldn’t do what we do here without the articles that were written the stir up the controversy educate and entertain. You even sent me on an exploration and I enjoyed the hell out of it thank you. Please forgive all spelling and grammar mistakes I’m in the 20%cheers

          • Berndt Norten

            You’re an innovator…with grammar and punctuation. He’ll, so was bell hooks. She didn’t do so badd ? ( and, have u seen all the good works of Freddie Douglass recently?)

          • Phil leavell

            And that sir is why this is such a wonderful place we can joke and have fun but still have each other’s backs

          • Berndt Norten

            ? ???

          • Berndt Norten

            I do. It’s a land of confusion.

        • Esteban

          1. Not really: a post is just a single item in a blog, comparable to an article in a printed magazine or newspaper. A post, as an article, can be about anything and the name does not imply anything.
          “Sponsored content” is just fine.

          “post
          noun
          a piece of writing, image, or other item of content published online, typically on a blog or social media website.”

          My problem with sponsored content here, is the blandness of it, the lack of personal opinion for sake of the money. We’ve seen hideous things no sane person would consider anything but hideous not being treated as the hideous monstrosities they are, and I think that’s the root of the problem.

          • Berndt Norten

            A post is a post
            By any other name?
            The logic is fawlty
            Da logic b lame

          • Berndt Norten

            I rest my case. You don’t understand the meaning of ‘sponsored post.’ You decry the lack of criticism of turds by the very producers of those turds!

            Read you final paragraph. That’s the illogic within. Why would you expect the ‘sponsored content’ to call hideous things hideous?

            Maybe English isn’t your first language. Then again it ain’t mine either.

          • Esteban

            There are literary ways in which you can call a thing hideous and at the same time keep the sponsors happy. I’ve recommended writing courses to Ariel and crew. Yes, we can’t expect them to call them hideous, but they certainly don’t have either to salute them so much.

          • Berndt Norten

            Sponsored posts are written by the producers not Ariel. I don’t follow what you’re trying to say. There must be some misunderstanding (oooooh-oooo-oo)

          • Sigh (not at you, at the subject): Yes. I’ve talked it a bit via email with Ariel, suggesting precisely that they, the crew, should write the sponsored posts. An example I gave was something among the lines of:

            “If you’re as flamboyant as an 80s F1 Team Principal (but on a budget), then this is the watch for you”. You’re clearly saying “this is a hideous watch only Flavio Briatore would wear”, but in a way that the sponsors will be happy about, and us, the readers, will find entertaining and HONEST, instead of the usual utterings by the sponsors.

      • Moonraker

        Hey Ariel, I know you’re coming up on 10 years of ABTW, but I wanted to take this opportunity to congratulate you on over 600 pages of articles. Keep ’em comin’. Thank you.

      • #The Deplorable Boogur T. Wang
  • William Jones

    I kind of like this one. It’s pricey but not ugly.

  • cluedog12

    Great article. The watch gets high marks from me for having a well-proportioned case. Thin and wearable…uncommon for a modern mechanical chronograph.

  • Juan-Antonio Garcia

    Want one, cooler than the other side of the pillow! Very good piece Mr Bredan.

  • Word Merchant

    If you want to read a more enthusiastic take on the Daytona, then it is my duty to point you at one of the few seminal watch articles with not one, but two happy endings (as well as a now legendary laundry bill): https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ben-clymer-and-john-mayer-talk-about-the-new-daytona

    • Moonraker

      December 7, 1941 – a date which will live in infamy.
      9/11 – never forget.
      May 26, 2016 – I won’t lie to you, this is bad. Now put on your goggles.

      • Raymond Wilkie

        Better late than never i suppose.

      • Gokart Mozart

        That is like one of those shocking days in the world when every few years when they have a significant anniversay and they do all the interviews about “do you remember the day…..” Or “what were you doing the day John Mayer bought his Daytona”

        • Moonraker

          It was Keramiknacht.

          • Berndt Norten

            Not sure that’s a good thing to joke about

          • Moonraker

            *deleted

          • Berndt Norten

            Genius is a bit like a thoroughbred: hard to handle.

          • Moonraker

            Too hard to handle, too wide to ride.
            Like corn to some meatloaf, got big hoes on the side.*

            *no wristwatch content in this comment

  • Esteban

    Yes, but does it really graph the cosmos?

    • SuperStrapper

      If not the watch is a fraud and rolex should be taken down with extreme prejudice.

    • Word Merchant

      Fact. The scale on the bezel is actually ‘units of smugness’. If you send you’re back to Rolex with a signed declaration that you are in fact more smug than Simon Cowell then Rolex will change the wording on the bezel for you.

      • Gokart Mozart

        What do you need to do to get them to change the wording (delete) on the dial?

  • Garrett Hu

    Never understood ceramic, let’s take a material that is susceptible to cracks and chips, then pour millions into making it stronger and more scratch resistant. All when you already have the perfect material, Stainless Steel. It’s easy to refinish yet strong enough for every day and if damaged beyond repair? Much cheaper to replace.

    Crack the bezel and you’re over a barrel, crack the Ceramic insert on the current sports models and it’s a complete new bezel.

    It’s a solution without a problem, except to invigorate sales.

    But hey, there are going to be a lot more SS Daytonas around for me when people drop them for the new one so I’m not complaining.

    I’m sticking with my 16600 and 16628, the last of the “honest” no nonsense models.

    • Raymond Wilkie

      You’r in the wrong mind set Garrett ( am going to assume that is you’r first name ).Think of yourself in the rich, pretentious, I want brigade ” Ooooh, that’s different, here’s my credit card ” . If it brakes i can always just get a new one.

      • Garrett Hu

        Well I can’t say you’re right either, because it’s the right mindset to me so from that aspect I can’t be wrong. I know many that can buy these watches like G-Shocks but you’re talking about the folks that are perhaps 2nd generation elites that spend money like that, or perhaps the one hit start up wonders that make it rich. Either way you’re not completely wrong but even the uber rich don’t spend like that, it’s probably the reason they are wealthy in the first place.

    • Kuroji

      To avoid scratches, you either have to go with a very hard material and risk cracks, or apply a very hard coating and risk chips.
      A soft material (like gold) could be used if the surface was easy to polish and you felt like committing to frequent refurbishment.

  • Mark1884

    After reading all of the below, I will keep it short:
    Good article David.
    I like Daytona’s.
    I see a rose gold ceramic Daytona in my future.

  • Raymond Wilkie

    Bored now.

  • Traveler

    I had one of these – it remains the only watch I have ever sold specifically because 9 times out of 20 I could never read the damn thing ….

    • Gregg McWilliams

      Agree completely, love the watch just can’t read the damm thing!

  • #The Deplorable Boogur T. Wang

    Per usual the anti-Rolex crowd has made itself known. (like clockwork I tells ya)

    A former colleague got a Daytona after finishing a contract in one of those deserty places where he couldn’t get a beer and was very highly paid. It was in the middle 80’s so it’s all relevant) He liked it, read several manuals on WTF it did and how to correctly use it. More of an ‘investment’ he used to say – He was right.
    I meanwhile opted on a two-tone datejust.
    Long story short – he finally figured out how to use his Daytona and I gave my Datejust away.
    Life is funny that way.

  • DG

    This model in white is a grail. No Mercedes hands and no cyclops makes a winner!

  • Erik

    I have this same watch. I agree with one thing, for sure — it needs AR coating on the underside of the crystal. Why hide the beautiful dial in reflections? Otherwise, the review seems a bit harsh. One thing in particular that stood out was criticism of a wavy bezel? Not on mine. The markings are laser engraved and sharp as can be; the steel bezel itself is mirror smooth.
    I leave the chrono pushers unscrewed all the time. (Yes, it’s still waterproof this way.) It’s such a useful complication that I time things with it several times during the day. From running intervals to parking meters to steak on the grill.
    Overall, from a guy who’s lived with the watch for years, I find it to be the perfect size. Elegant and sporty all at once, robust, crazy accurate, and the only watch I really need. I’ve not worn my other watches much since I got my Daytona.
    The great thing about watches is that there are so many choices out there. If this one’s not quite to the author’s taste, I’m sure he’ll be able to find one that is. I look forward to reading about that journey.