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Guide To Buying Your First Rolex Part 1: When To Buy

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This is a two part guide on buying your first Rolex watch. Our Rolex buying guide is intended both novices and seasoned watch lovers. Part 1 discusses when you should invest in your first Rolex, while Part 2 discuss what specific Rolex timepiece to buy.

True story: when I first became interested in "nice" watches I had little interest in Rolex. Looking back, I think I found them a bit ordinary or too conservative looking. My 20 year-old self perhaps saw them as being "too safe" from a design perspective and not close enough the modern, experimental designs I was attracted to at the time. That was all true. Rolex watches are design monoliths. Due to Rolex's impressive marketing over the years, as well as the sheer popularity of their products, they have become the archetype of the "nice watch." And everyone certainly knows about them. My younger self was simply looking for something a bit more fresh. It was not a right time to get my first Rolex.

Over the years my relationship with Rolex evolved. It is now one of admiration, appreciation, and certainly understanding. I know what Rolex watches are good at, I know what to expect from the brand, and I certainly know how seriously other people take them. And that goes equally for new and vintage Rolex watches that attract very distinct fans.

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Why People Want A Rolex

Rolex watches are perhaps the finest mass-produced industrial timepiece on the planet. They may actually be the finest mass-produced anything. And by mass-produced I mean in terms of watch brand production volumes which for watches at the Rolex price point is most always less than one million watches per year.

Eventually I came to approve of and even greatly desire one, then two, and later more Rolex watch models. What really changed my perception of Rolex was being able to survey the competition. My status as a watch writer and expert affords me the opportunity to handle over 1,000 watches per year. I've reviewed a lot of watches and can say for sure that Rolex does a lot of things the very best. You also can't deny the communicative power a Rolex watch has when saying something about your status, wealth, and taste. None of it may be true, but years of work have given Rolex wearers a pretty good personality edge. Even people who think buying a Rolex is a too easy way of showing actual or apparent wealth can usually only fault the wearer and not the watch. I've come to find that a Rolex watch is infrequently a bad choice.

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People tend to want buy a Rolex for one of the following main reasons: to celebrate an achievement, to own a watch that appears to hold value, to communicate a level of career or life success, to own a luxury watch that is a simple choice, or to wear a timepiece with a lot of history. Most Rolex watch models would satisfy each of these needs. No reason is better or worse, but it is interesting that most people's desire to wear a Rolex falls into one or more of these categories.

The natural next question to ask is whether these are good reasons or whether these are just marketing perpetuated ideas to sell watches. That is a very good question and I think the most simple response is that whether or not these ideas are perpetuated by marketing, they are true. Rolex watches are frequently given or purchased on special occasions. Rolex watches to tend to hold their value very well. And Rolex watches are a well-known luxury brand with a name lots of people have a positive association with. So marketing aside, they are true claims.

People have sometimes asked me if "Rolex watches are the best in the world?" Rolex is probably the most powerful luxury watch name, and their products are very well-made, these are facts. However, Rolex watches are the last timepiece some people will buy, and for others they are just a start. Rolex tends to make simple mechanical movements and a limited variety of core designs. There is an entire universe of more complicated, more expensive, and more thoroughly designed watches. Having said that, few will claim that a Rolex doesn't belong in a well-rounded watch collection.

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When Is The Right Time To Buy A Rolex?

Around the time this article was written, we on aBlogtoWatch were wrapping up a viewer poll on this exact question. Visitors to aBlogtoWatch were asked, in their opinion, what the best time to buy a Rolex watch was. Four possible response choices were given and the results were remarkably well-distributed. About 21% said that it was best to buy a Rolex as soon as they could afford it. About 24% said the best time to get a Rolex was after sampling watches from many other brands. About 25% said it was Rolex time as soon as you've achieved a certain level of success. The rest weren't interested in Rolex watches at all.

The poll results indicated that 70% of aBlogtoWatch readers felt it was a good idea to buy a Rolex at some point. Clearly, you need to afford one first. As of now, the entry level price for the most basic new Rolex watch is about $5,000, with most pieces people want priced in the $8,000 - $12,000 range. Of course vintage or pre-owned Rolex watches can be less or actually more money.

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Assuming the money is in the bank, you need to feel emotionally ready. Sound silly? Well given that people associate so many types of sentimental feelings with Rolex watches, it is actually something to consider. Let me tell you what I personally feel. Like I said earlier, Rolex watches are a monolith. The brand is like a rock-solid force that was here before I was born, and will be here after I have left. Rolex also does not really add or subtract models with any speed or regularity. In fact, the watch models Rolex sells today, will in some highly recognizable form, be available long into the future. Rolex evolves their product collection versus changing it. That means it is as good a time to buy a new Submariner now, as it will be in 5, 10, or even 20 years. The Submariner will still be around - and it is that type of reassurance that Rolex has worked so hard to foster.

Having said that, I'd love a Rolex right now, but perhaps it would be a foolhardy decision. I am among those people who believe that the time to buy a Rolex is right after you've sampled a lot of watches, and when the right level of life success calls for it. I am just one person however. What we've done for you is collect the thoughts of our most respected fellow watch experts and writers to weigh in on this issue. Read their thoughts below and check out part 2 of the "When To Buy Your First Rolex" on what watch to buy.

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What The Experts Say

You know what we have to say on the topic of when to get your first Rolex watch, and below you'll see what other important voices think as well. It is important for you to feel that your new (or new for you) Rolex comes at the right time. Our colleagues and fellow experts offer their advice on the matter of your first Rolex watch below (click on their name to read their statement):

Ben Clymer of Hodinkee.com

I think that a vintage Rolex in particular is an excellent watch for beginning collectors for a few reasons.  In fact, I would say that if one is comfortable with the brand positioning of Rolex, it is arguably the finest "first nice watch" someone can own.  The reason that I would suggest vintage early in the collecting career is A) they can be had for little money comparatively speaking, B) you get a superb, historic, and truly in-house watch from a bluechip brand, and C) it was the 1950s-70s when Rolex was really in its hey-day.  In fact, I would argue that Rolex is the most important watch brand of the 20th century - their list of technical firsts is a mile long, and watches such as the 1970s Datejust (ref 1603), which very much like the modern Datejust today, can be purchased in good, original condition for $2500 (+/- depending on condition, etc).  The modern equivalent, which is very much the same watch, retails for double the price and the aging commonly found on the dial and hands give the vintage pieces a nice, elegant glow.  The Datejust (or Oyster Perpetual, or Air King, etc) is a superb everyday watch that is universally appreciated and universally acceptable - whether with a t-shirt and jeans or a suit.  The cases, bracelets, and movements are of exceptional build quality and I don't think there is a better buy for that kind of money.

I think a modern Rolex is a slightly different story, and the real benefit to buying new is if you want a true sport watch that can handle anything you throw at it.  Sure, an old Submariner or GMT can be serviced to be completely water-proof, but they still have plastic crystals and 40 year old parts (here and there).  A modern Rolex is built like a tank, and while they may not have some of the charm of some vintage pieces, they are truly exceptionally well-made watches.  Though, I think they lack some of the charm of the early tritium and radium dials.

Michael Clerizo from the Wall Street Journal

I like the way the Japanese gift watches based around an occasion such as a graduation, a significant birthday, a first job or an important promotion. I think that approach should apply even if you're buying for yourself. A mechanical watch is not like buying a lamp or a computer, it is something very special so you should link purchasing one to a meaningful event in your life. Both the event and the watch will hold more meaning that way.

As mechanical watches require some care you need a sense of responsibility to own one. We all mature at different ages but many people (males and females) have the sense of responsibility by sixteen or by eighteen.

Robert-Jan Broer from the Fratellowatches.com

Rolex still has an 'image' that it is a watch to commemorate something special. Your first job, your first child, your graduation, your wedding, and so on. I feel, that if you are buying a Rolex to celebrate something, you should always try to go for a brand new Rolex instead of a pre-owned one. If you aren't buying a Rolex to celebrate a joyful event, but just want to buy that first good watch that will last a lifetime, you might as well take pre-owned Rolex watches into consideration. A pre-owned Rolex will certainly save you a few bucks, unless the Rolex is a sports model that is much sought-after (f.i. Submariner, Sea-Dweller, GMT-Master). Chances are quite good that the price of a pre-owned vintage Rolex equals a new Rolex watch or is even more expensive.

Jake Ehrlich from RolexMagazine.com

I believe the best time for someone to purchase their first Rolex is whenever they fall in love with a Rolex watch, and decide they have to have it and can't live without it. It's that simple. This happened to me 30 years ago, when I was 16 years old. There was a Rolex Authorized Dealer (AD) in Mill Valley, California I somehow wandered into when I was 16. At the time, Rolex had recently introduced the first Submariner with a synthetic sapphire crystal, which gave it a really modern look. I fell madly in love with that watch and used to go visit it at least once a month. I became friendly with the jeweler, who must have thought I was nuts, because I would drop by just to try on the watch and stare at it like it was Sophia Loren.I remember thinking to myself, there was something magical about the Submariner. I was stunned by its super-timelessness and purposeful looking design. I remember thinking there was something very James-Bond-like about it, and I thought, if I could just get one, it would somehow make me invulnerable – like wearing a bracelet with magic powers. At the time I did not realize that every James Bond actor had worn the Rolex Submariner as their default sport watch, but for some reason, when I would look at it on my wrist, the James Bond theme music track would start playing in my head! You know. the dun-na-na-na, na-nunna, dun-na-nunn-na...

One day, when I was still 16, I went to go visit the Rolex Submariner again, and the jeweler said "Hi Jake! Coming to visit your best friend again?", to which I said "Yes." Then he said, "Why don't you just buy the watch, so you don't have to come in here and stare at it on your wrist?" I remember asking the AD every imaginable question about the Submariner, and I remember being frustrated that I could not just buy it since the watch retailed for just over $1000 at the time, which was a lot of money, particularly for a 16 year old.

I thanked the AD, and he said "See you soon!", to which I responded "Yes you will. I will be back before you close the store this evening to pickup the watch." He smiled and had this kind of confused look on his face. Somehow I came up with the $1000, and showed up several minutes before the AD closed and bought the Rolex Submariner. The AD sized it for my wrist, and I could not stop staring at the watch. I remember I went home and laid in bed for hours staring at the timeless beauty of the design, and when I turned the lights off, I would get way under the covers and completely cover myself in blankets so no ambient light was visible, and I would just stare at the beautiful lumed dial, and I would stare at the second hand as it moved ever so precisely around the dial in big circles. So my answer is, you should buy what you want or in my case had to buy, whenever you can afford it.

Paul Altieri from Bobswatches.com

A good time to buy your first Rolex watch is when you have enough discretionary income to where you can afford the model you want. Our average Rolex buyer is 40 to 45 years old but we have recently experienced a 15% increase in younger buyers in their mid to late twenties. But they all share the same love and appreciation for what it means to own and wear a Rolex. And while some are celebrating a momentous occasion like a college graduation, the vast majority are just buying the watch for themselves because they want it!

For those looking to find the best deals: buy soon after a major holiday like Christmas or Fathers Day where it is sometimes possible to find a small percentage discount. But don’t expect to find bargain basement close-outs. Not on a Rolex.

Advantage of buying a pre-owned Rolex? A pre-owned Rolex watch, unlike a new one, will not depreciate in value soon after it is purchased. While buying a new Rolex is akin to buying a new car: they will both depreciate in value substantially after they are purchased. By buying a pre-owned watch you have essentially eliminated this retail markup devaluation making it possible to someday sell your Rolex for more than you paid.

Frank Geelen from Monochrome.nl

Buying a first Rolex is something monumental and it makes sense to do this for a memorable occasion. This can be either a celebration (high school diploma, university graduation, promotion at work, wedding) or something for remembrance (using an inheritance for instance).

James Stacey from aBlogtoWatch

7/10 Rolex buyers are buying exclusively for the name and do so whenever they have the cash to afford an 8K+ watch (as Paul said). If you consider yourself a watch nerd type, you may be buying a Rolex (and a specific model at that) for a variety of reasons. Rolex has a sport watch tied to the history of many manly pursuits (Sub = diving, daytona = racing, explorer/II = exploration, GMT Master = pilots, gold date just = dictator/mafioso/cocaine cowboys).

About Ariel Adams

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aleximd2000
aleximd2000

Look guys! Whatever says one or another think about this!When I was in year 2 student I met a veteran Gynecologist and he was smoking Royal Rothmans! Only that brand! When I asked him why he is smoking only that he replied: Alex , when you'll be older , you'll see what addiction means for something that you know that is reliable! In the following years I learned my lesson! After a couple of dozen watches ,now I know that the most important thing is reliability, which means that under every circumstances and conditions you need a friend, in this case the watch, and he must be in time , working order . Once you are connected with him -the watch- he will never let you down and neither you. So , gather the money , buy a good quality watch and you'll see, you'll have a little soul that is thicking on your wrist once you gave life to him. Before I'll go to buy my rolex I think that the next will be an another Panerai because a bug just happened to enter my soul after my first Luminor Marina. All the best and hopefully not boring to read my craziness about my little companions   alex

MarkCarson
MarkCarson

@aleximd2000 So buying a Rolex is like starting smoking (or crack or herion) - the first taste (often due to peer pressure) gets you hooked and in the end you wish you never started but end up having a hard time quitting what you are addicted to. 

Hmmm - not the analogy I would have used in favor of Rolex, but I guess your point was quality and reliability and not really addiction. Ha ha.

Panerai seems to another watch brand with 'addicted' (loyal) owners too!

 Cheers.

becevit
becevit

what do you guys think about buying a used rolex and having it customised?  I used to not like rolexes but now I like them with the dlc treatment all blacked out. I have 3 other mechanical watches so its not a matter of buying for the status symbol it is, I just like the way dlc rolex looks.

QQQ
QQQ

Interesting comparison with those two brands, Omega and Rolex. To be clear, outside of a couple of vintage GMT Master II's I like only really like a few Rolexs. Of the current models, the only one I really like and would pay for is the Deep Sea. However, I can't see paying 10k for it. Omega has a few more I like. Not real big into the Planet Ocean line but I love a few of those Speedmaster chronographs. Espocally on metal bracelets. I think they are "priced well" especially when comparing them to Rolex. Anybody like the new IWC Ingenieur line? Really nice but really pricey.

MarkCarson
MarkCarson

@QQQ Yeah I like the IWC somewhat. But it is probably my least favorite Gerald Genta design. Im waiting to see the really antimagnetic new Omega

aleximd2000
aleximd2000

@MarkCarson @QQQ Mark

Where do you use to buy your watches

You know some tax free zone or something??

For us europeans USsounds pretty good deal after all!But you know maybe there is an another source  alex

QQQ
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I came to the realize that like most things you get what you pay for. Rolex is makes a good to great product that's why they are a success. I also decided to reward myself. I rarely by anything really nice for myself and I do like watches. They have value to me. I decided on the Panerai 372 and I am very happy with my choice. Cost me much more than the conservative 4-5k I thought a "nice" watch should be but it is worth it to me. Side note, I was in New Orleans over this past weekend and ran into Verdine White and Ralph Johnson of Earth, Wind, and Fire in a restaurant. They stopped me to say goodbye as we were leaving. Come find out they are big watch guys. They stopped me and asked me about my watch! They were cool as hell. I didn't by a watch for other people to approve of it but it was a pretty cool chance meeting all because of a watch selection. Who knew?

MarkCarson
MarkCarson

@aleximd2000  @QQQ A this point my 'watch money' goes into making my own line of watches and not really buying any of the cool watches that are out there. Which is a little sad. When you travel you can shop in the Duty Free stores but I'm not sure that is really the best deal out there. What brands are you looking for? Perhaps other commenters can provide some suggestions.

Chr0matin
Chr0matin

Great article, but I have to say the only time in my life I would imagine getting a Rolex is as a retirement gift.   The current trend of younger guys wearing a vintage Rolex is admirable, but it's still fundamentally an older buyer's brand. 

mattsphones
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Great article.  Though I'm a watch-lover, this article makes me feel like an outsider.  Though I can afford one, I'm far from being able to see what sense it makes.  The issue for me is the delta between the many $500 or less range watches out there, and a Rolex.  I don't dispute the quality of a Rolex.  I just don't believe it's 10x or more the quality of a watch in the hundreds of dollars range.  As I said in another post, I don't begrudge anyone who buys one.  Without you such watches wouldn't exist for me to read about and look at on the Internet!  I just don't understand it fully.

I do love reading about them, and look forward to more.

aleximd2000
aleximd2000

@mattsphones believe me , after you own one , you'll see the difference

A 57 seven year old chick is not 10 times better then a 17 years old but believe me there is a difference!

And between a Jelly and a Renault there is a diffrence of 20-35% of quality!But a crash test done with the reanault and with5 satrs is for sure ok. But with a chinese car I don't think! 

I give you a practical example: I did a work with my Makita sds drill .I wore a swatch on my wrist.After a couple of drills the watch started to run crazy. I hammered like a crazy with my Omega Dynamic and nothing happened! I was lucky or I don't know!

MarkCarson
MarkCarson

@mattsphones Totally agree with your point. However, the number of $500 automatics is limited to mostly Asian movements (of which Japanese ones aren't so bad anymore - Seiko even hacks and hand winds the Monster these days). When you compare Swiss movements (up to you whether that is worth the money or not), the prices seem to be $800 and up and up depending on lots of factors. Ariel's recent post on "Value" generated a lot of similar discussion. So you are far from alone on this.

Ulysses31
Ulysses31

Ah, Rolex.  The very name conjures up vivid memories of your grandpa, that old-man musk that infused his suit jacket; the same jacket he was buried in *sniff*.  

A mass-produced watch that no longer deserves the reputation it has built up - perhaps once it did but now they're just coasting.  Innovations and glories of the past don't seem to interest them anymore and don't appear in their current lineup.  I read on another blog recently that in the 60s they made a watch with a depth rating of almost 11000 metres.  Bloody hell, that's amazing!  Can you buy this engineering marvel, this Schwarzenegger of watches?  Can you f***.  

In terms of materials, Grade 2205 steel has superior corrosion resistance, is much stronger and cheaper.  Why don't they use that instead of 904L?  Because it cost them a lot of marketing dollars to brainwash you into believing 904L was special and they don't want to spend any more when they already have the mind-share of so many.  If you want to impress someone who knows nothing about watches - in other words, the general public, then Rolex is the watch for you.  That's all they recognise.  If you don't live for others and what they think of you, make a wiser choice.  If this blog has taught you anything, it's that here are myriad better choices in luxury watches that are more innovative and exciting.  Rolex just doesn't make the pulse quicken.

I died a little inside when I read that a sixteen-year-old blew a thousand dollars on a Rolex; the Coca-Cola of "luxury" watches.  Oh hey Mark, does that Cholex Xtreme Superchunk come in chocolate?  I feel like a snack about now.

MarkCarson
MarkCarson

@Ulysses31You would have to ask Ariel and John about the Cholex Xtreme Superchunk. But I like where you are heading with this. Chocolate instead of vintage Rolex "tropical" dial. They could use those chocolate "coins" that are wrapped in gold foil for the dial. Or like the "up-cycling" of the Blancier Grand Cru watch with Nespresso capsule dial (http://www.ablogtowatch.com/blancier-grand-cru-watch-with-nespresso-capsule-dial/), the could use an old "Chunky" candy wrapper.

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daottaway
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There really are several "good " things about Rolex. The main thing would be that they are a "HERITAGE" company, and that can afford them to charge whatever they want to charge to the "intro upper range watch buyer."  I highly doubt someone starting with a Greubel & Forsey.  If I owned a Rolex it would be my knock around watch because the company states they are tough and perfect  for extreme conditions, a real working watch, not just something you keep under glass. 

But the fact is that an Omega will do anyone as good or better than a Rolex. I actually have owned an Omega in the past, so as far as Rolex goes I am speaking from "others" stories.

rolex   

f15soloist
f15soloist

I have no faith in a 16 year old who buys a Rolex.  

arthurdavis
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I'm just brainstorming here. Cholex Extreme  Super Chunk, Your go to watch for the zombie apocalypse.

your welcome.

MarkCarson
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@arthurdavisI believe you meant to spell that as "Cholex Xtreme  Super Chunk". You know how John and Ariel love to spell and yell out XTREME on the podcast.

Cheers

billjones270
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James is the best - cocaine cowboy!

DG Cayse
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The model would more correctly be the Presidential DayDate Oyster for that group...with excessive bling. 

QQQ
QQQ

@DG Cayse I agree. A little understated class goes a long way.it may not be very exciting but that's what I look for in a nice watch.

adisoon
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Great article Ariel!

I was given a Rolex when I was a teenager. A hand me down from my father. I treated it badly, but it did instill a love of watches which continues to this day. Every now and then, I veer away from Rolex, finding it too staid and boring. However I often come back, because old faithful never changes. Stability is a valuable thing when too much novelty makes my head spin. 

I'll have me a Rolex any day. 

Ayreonaut
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I can't wait to read a guide to buying your first Cholex.

pmspice
pmspice

Interesting that you only chose 'expert' men to comment after your post

LaurentG
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Tanks a lot for the article Ariel, i am a long time French fan of your blog. Let me tell you my Story. Ma father offered me a GMT back in 1985 when i passed succesfully my bachelor, or BAC as we say in French. This watch was my dream watch since i was 10 or 12. I was reading my father's magazine GEO and ROLEX was always advertizing the inside first page cover, always telling nice stories from adventurers from everywhere arround the globe. I was having no idea about the social status attachéd to the brand, and back in 1985 it was only one dealer in my home town that was selling the brand. My father did not undertand at this time that I was prefering to have such an expensive watch instead of a car, traditional gift when turning 18. Like Jake Ehrlich, the day finally my dad offered it to me was a tru moment of emotion. I'm stil a watch addict today, and offered myself a lot of watches some much more expensive, but I never felt again this émotion.I still have it today and my 9 years old boy not knowing anything about watch love this one only. That's maybe also the magic of the brand... Laurent G

adisoon
adisoon

@LaurentG 

Hi Laurent, 

Your story sounds similar to mine. In fact, look out for an article that I wrote about my experience with Rolex. 

DG Cayse
DG Cayse

Mr. Laurent, such a beautiful comment. It is sometimes strange how something that constantly reminds us of the passing of our life, can arouse such passion and pleasure.

MarkOs
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In my first job the boss always wore a Rolex, then came the day it stopped and he sent the secretary to the jewelers to change the battery! She came back very red faced and said the jeweler refused to do anything with fake watches. The boss immediatly went out and replaced his fake Rolex with exactly the same model only real this time. The main problem is now he was wearing the real thing and everyone still looked at it and thought fake.

Now everytime I see someone wearing a Rolex my first thought is not "thats a nice watch" but unfortunately my only thought is  "is that a fake" . Personally having recently invested in a watch in the $5000 range I did not even look at Rolex as an option as in my mind it has such a high association with fakes and copies.

Probably my loss but hard to get past the feeling when you are spending your hard earned cash.

bichondaddy
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I have to say, when I was younger, and in my 20's, having a Rolex seemed like a big deal. Then one day I happened to be chatting with my Great Uncle and asked him why he still wore a Timex.  He knew my I loved watches and told me, and I am loosely quoting him,  " I still have my 1974 Chrysler, I wear a Timex watch, and I have lived very modestly my entire life, and yet I am man of great wealth and importance in the industry.  The most important thing to have in business is a nice personality, a great smile, and a terrific sense of humor. It's not what you wear that makes you a great salesman, it's who you are. "   I took his words seriously, and spent over 20 years in retail sales and sales management, and now that I am retired, I still take his words to heart.   Although I have had a Rolex in my collection, I did not wear it to show off or to impress others...I wore it because it was what I wanted to do at the time. 

So, if you want to impress others, do it with who you are, not with what you own.  

Ryan B
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I seem to have the same problem a lot of us have and that is the name carries a very pretentious reputation.

Kris C
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I don't have any "problem" with Rolex, I just don't understand the value proposition. When I forst started becoming interested in 'nice' watches, I decided that green sapphire milgauss was the watch for me. A few years later, along with a wealth of knowledge I didn't have back then, I was able to finally afford it, and bough... A Zenith. And thank goodness I did, at this point I feel like the milgauss would have been a regrettable action and might have even sold it by now (something I've never done). The Zenith will be with me for life, I just last year payed to have it properly serviced, and I considered it to be a worthy investment, not a begrudging expense.

If rolex is the watch for you, have at it. Just be as educated as you can be/want to be: I'm sure lots of rolex owners could care less about value proposition as long as their wrist says rolex.

QQQ
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I do like Rolex watches a lot. They are sturdy as hell and a great product. However, I don't look at a watch as a piece of jewelry. I find that many people do, which is fine. My only problem is that guy that refers to his Rolex as the "Roley". Hate that dude. To be honest, being associated with that guy because I would wear his watch is part of the reason that I haven't purchased one yet. I've looked at Omega and IWC. And for $8k I've seen a couple out of their shop that I would rather have then a "affordable" Rolex.

DCportraits
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Great article @ablogtowatch  and looking forward to the second portion. I remember I bought my first Rolex, an explorer II 16570, for my 28 birthday. I was a submarine nuclear mechanic in the Navy and I've always coveted the submariner but could never afford it. After trolling TRF for a while I found a nice deal on the 16570 and pounced hoping to trade up some day. Awesome quotes at the end.

Zeitblom
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"I've reviewed a lot of watches and can say for sure that Rolex does a lot of things the very best."

For example? This is precisely my problem with Rolex --- for the same amount of money you can get many other watches that are superior. Which is precisely what you would expect --- Rolex charges a premium for the Rolex name. If you aren't interested in the status angle [and I'm not saying that anyone shouldn't be] then logically it makes sense to stay far away from Rolex

aBlogtoWatch
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@Zeitblom A good example is the steel, dial quality, detailing, bracelet, and deployant. Rolex does those things very very well.

nateb123
nateb123

@aBlogtoWatch @Zeitblom Well they do it well NOW.  But that's a pretty new development that resulted from consumer pressure.  Sharp, poorly finished cases and as many stamped metal parts in the bracelet were the norm at Rolex long after other brands had upped their standards.  Personally I don't trust a brand that doesn't have a single display caseback.  Let's just say they won't be getting the Hallmark of Geneva any time soon for their finishing.

DG Cayse
DG Cayse

While its is true that some Rolex models did use a folded metal construction on the links in certain bracelet models...during the 70s. This practice was abandoned rather quickly...in the late 70s.

The premium prices and collector value of older Rolex models gives proof to the lie of infereior quality ever being accepted by Rolex. Much less the norm for the marque.

It is also true that Rolex even dabbled in offering a quartz engine; I seem to remember it being named something like..."OysterQuartz" or something like that. Agan, rather short-lived. But even in this apparition, quality was bever an issue.

As to the need for a 'display caseback,' that would be counter to the Oyster case design which has served as a distinguishing offering of the marque...wouldn't it?

DG Cayse
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Another good reason(s) that was somehow left out: Durability and Depndabiity. From the movement to the crown assembly to the bracet and clasp, Rolex is built very well. Yes, it has the 'name' appeal;but as you mention, this has been built on the fact that Rolex builds a darn fine watch.

I ws given my first Rolex as a gift from a grateful client - a two-tone Datajust. Fine watch but I found it just attracted too much attention - and not all of it was good. So I gave it to a dear friend. A few years later I found myself at a local jewelers shop in the south of Spain trying, for the 3rd time, to fix a broken bracelet on a well-known (supposedly for its toughness) dive watch and seeing the very talented jeweler reduces to using paper-clips and telling that was the best he could do without ordering a replacement part or bracelet. I gave him the watch. In the duty-free shop flying back to America I spent all of 2 minutes looking at a Submariner and puled out the card and it was one my wrist for the next 25 yrs. And I still have it.

Thats a very good reason to buy a Rolex. 

MarkCarson
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I have zero problem with Rolex as a watch. The reason most people (that I have run into) want to have one is what keeps me from wanting one. 

If you have only heard of a single luxury watch - it is Rolex. If you need a watch to show that you have arrived but otherwise know nothing about watches - you want a Rolex. If you want to wear a watch that non-watch people will be impressed by (due to name recognition) - it is a Rolex.

So in a sense, I'm still where Ariel was at age 20, they are too ordinary and too much the standard issue watch for recently attained wealth. I understand why they appear to not innovate (why mess with a good thing that works exceedingly well from a sales/marketing standpoint), but I would rather see something more daring for that kind of money.

While I really do appreciate the iconic nature of some of their models and am amazed at their ability to produce such a quantity of quality watches annually, I still think they are the watch for non-watch people. Which is a crying shame as the watches are really great for what they are. Their marketing is so successful that it runs the risk of driving away serious watch buyers - until you stop and toss out what you think about the brand and re-focus on the watches themselves.

I really see the Swiss watch industry as Rolex and everyone else. Two completely different animals - yet the same species.


mktcrasher
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@MarkCarson I tend to agree with you on this.  I only got into watches in the last few years.  Knew the Rolex brand from marketing etc.  But last fall in San Francisco I actually held one for the first time at a large dealer....Submariner.  I believe it felt cheap, hollow bracelet.  I have always liked the look of Omegas more although they don't have the reputation.  But picking them up back to back totally turned me off Rolex.  My god, my Orient Mako beater feels higher quality then the Rolex....scary.  Just my opinion.  I don't believe there is any justification for the price difference of Omega approx $3,000 to $7,000 Rolex.  I am just not seeing it and never will.  Reminds me of Apple Phones, Samsung GS3 has way better components specs, etc....but Apple popular because cool.  I like to buy on value.  And I don't really believe any watch is an investment, they are toys.

MarkCarson
MarkCarson

@mktcrasher Interesting observation on the Rolox vs Omega (and Orient). I'm with you on Apple versus Android phones too (and I have a GS3 phone) - it's that value proposition thing again. I admire cool design and high levels of integration on all toys but Apple and Rolex seem to overcharge for what you get. Good comparison, thanks.

RobertLeeGarces
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ahhhh great article! i felt like i was with the boys, chatting up about a few good time pieces. keep them coming ariel!

Robert Garces

robertleegarces@gmail.com

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