Do you guys have any idea about what is grade 5 titanium and what is grade 2??? I don't think that you do. I am a materials engineer and I have to say in a watch, they do not change anything. It is not that grade 2 is cheap or anything.
By the way I dont like purposeless useage of Carbon fiber like this watch.

Ok, a pretty cool watch. Not super cool, and I do have an issue with that dial. But more on that in a second. The price seems very very very high. But this raises that question again, which is, what is one buying exactly? how much does it mean that the item somehow be 'cool'....or feel like a work of art in some way. OR at least a design bit of art. I dont have answers, but I wouldnt pay 13 grand for a TAG......i would go buy a used IWC or Rolex or even Vacheron Constantine or something. And as a comparison, a Pierre DeRoche (you ve talked about them) goes for around 15 grand. Which do you want? A tag or a small exclusive very elite watch NOBODY you know is going to own (probably)? And Im sorry, but that dial is kind of ugly. Period. I keep looking at it here and its a mess. (IMHO).

Ok, a pretty cool watch. Not super cool, and I do have an issue with that dial. But more on that in a second. The price seems very very very high. But this raises that question again, which is, what is one buying exactly? how much does it mean that the item somehow be 'cool'....or feel like a work of art in some way. OR at least a design bit of art.

I dont have answers, but I wouldnt pay 13 grand for a TAG......i would go buy a used IWC or Rolex or even Vacheron Constantine or something. And as a comparison, a Pierre DeRoche (you ve talked about them) goes for around 15 grand. Which do you want? A tag or a small exclusive very elite watch NOBODY you know is going to own (probably)?

And Im sorry, but that dial is kind of ugly. Period. I keep looking at it here and its a mess. (IMHO).

I think it is anything, but ugly. This is a killer timepiece.

I think it is anything, but ugly. This is a killer timepiece.

Does nobody else think that dial is butt ugly?

I like the sand blasted case, like a page out of IWC's book. Then again, many brands are doing it these day. Not sure about the dial. I've never liked these kinds of dials, remind me a bit of the Mille Miglia Chopards.

This is cool (only downer i can see is the massive stick out lugs and the price, levelled purely at the car owners i would presume) and Tag are certainly going up in the world compared to where they used to be in the 90's (maybe Tag bashing will become less of a sport with models like these) but the Mikrograph is the headline stealer and will surely be a front runner for the grand prix d'horlogerie awards.

Man I wish I could afford this. This one presses all my lust buttons. The 330 in orange on the tachymeter represents the theoretical top-speed of the MP4-12C. I love the strap and the orange stitching. This is one of my favorite SIHH announcements. There's not $13K of watch here, but there's a lot to like about it in my opinion.

Man I wish I could afford this. This one presses all my lust buttons. The 330 in orange on the tachymeter represents the theoretical top-speed of the MP4-12C. I love the strap and the orange stitching. This is one of my favorite SIHH announcements. There's not $13K of watch here, but there's a lot to like about it in my opinion.

Echoing the expensive of such a cracking time piece and similarly perplexed as to why only grade 2 titanium as the Kirium(why was the model axed btw?) ti5 used grade 5 as well as carbon fibre for the dial. Love the hints of orange used on the bezel, dial , hands and strap stitching nice and subtlety eye catching. Well done Kris for noticing the Porsche-alike font, no bad thing in my book as i love it personally, and i agree totally with Ivan that it would even better with curved lugs. Bad point other than the price? The back is just so damn boring.

This is not a bad looking watch for a car collaboration but I agree with you and Kris on the price being a little unreasonable. And the lugs could stand to be curved -- it looks pretty massive on your wrist for being just 43mm. BTW, are you going to do a review of Carrera 1887? That looks like a solid choice in TAG's lineup (under-$3K street price) and production model looks pretty slick since they decided to remove tachy scale.

This is not a bad looking watch for a car collaboration but I agree with you and Kris on the price being a little unreasonable. And the lugs could stand to be curved -- it looks pretty massive on your wrist for being just 43mm.

BTW, are you going to do a review of Carrera 1887? That looks like a solid choice in TAG's lineup (under-$3K street price) and production model looks pretty slick since they decided to remove tachy scale.

Very cool, but geez louise thats a pricey TAG. The Mikrograph and V4 are trypes of models that are, to me, anomalous novelties for a brand that generally offers mid-range timepieces with a distinctive look. I've been waiting for a review on the Mikrograph, the dedicated balance for the chronograph is something I want to hear more about. Thew design cues here are really neat - it has a modern-meets-throwback feel to it, which looks to have been done very well. The case and strap look very 70s to me, and the fonts look like TAG and Porcshe design take from the same parts bin (not a bad thing), but the dial/face looks like it just descended from another planet. The length of the hands is good, but I think the hour and minute hands could have been wider. I'm amazed that it is 43mm - looking at it on your wrist, it appears just massive. Must be those giant lugs that look like prongs to an outlet from the planet the dial came from. Is that a rubber insert on the crown? Or just darker titanium? Neato either way. The branding is obvious, but not obnoxious, and you're not slapped in the face with the McLaren partnership - you'd have to know to understand that is a car model (and while this 12C is crazy cool, I'm still saving for my 1997 F1 - I'm 1.3% to goal!). I'd happily give this one it's share of wrist time, but dropping that much on a TAG just seems wierd to me.

Very cool, but geez louise thats a pricey TAG. The Mikrograph and V4 are trypes of models that are, to me, anomalous novelties for a brand that generally offers mid-range timepieces with a distinctive look.
I've been waiting for a review on the Mikrograph, the dedicated balance for the chronograph is something I want to hear more about.
Thew design cues here are really neat - it has a modern-meets-throwback feel to it, which looks to have been done very well. The case and strap look very 70s to me, and the fonts look like TAG and Porcshe design take from the same parts bin (not a bad thing), but the dial/face looks like it just descended from another planet. The length of the hands is good, but I think the hour and minute hands could have been wider. I'm amazed that it is 43mm - looking at it on your wrist, it appears just massive. Must be those giant lugs that look like prongs to an outlet from the planet the dial came from.
Is that a rubber insert on the crown? Or just darker titanium? Neato either way. The branding is obvious, but not obnoxious, and you're not slapped in the face with the McLaren partnership - you'd have to know to understand that is a car model (and while this 12C is crazy cool, I'm still saving for my 1997 F1 - I'm 1.3% to goal!).

I'd happily give this one it's share of wrist time, but dropping that much on a TAG just seems wierd to me.