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Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

It’s no secret that watch enthusiasts tend to have a love for Grand Seiko that I’ve always likened to that of an indie music snob’s fondness of an obscure band that’s loved by their peers but relatively unknown to the masses (any old Broken Social Scene fans out there?). Grand Seiko watches are exceptionally made and the epitome of “stealth wealth” in a lot of ways. Now, things are changing with Seiko putting an increasing importance on their luxury watches as part of their broader strategy in a changing market, meaning Grand Seiko has got to go mainstream outside of Japan. Seiko (smartly) decided this year that “Seiko Grand Seiko” would now just be the autonomous “Grand Seiko,” and one of the releases in tandem with the rebranding was the new Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT SBGC219, SBGC221, and SBGC223 watch collection.

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

The 2016 Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Limited Edition SBGC017

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

You’ll remember that in 2016, we saw the Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Limited Edition Chronograph SBGC017 watch (seen above) which featured the serene and lovely green repeating tree pattern dial that came on a leather strap. This watch was part of a series of four limited edition ceramic watches which were the first ceramic cases from Seiko and came with some sticker shock, priced at $13,000. Well, now we know that this was Grand Seiko proverbially dipping their toes in the water, as these new ceramic sports watches have light and durable ceramic-titanium bracelets, the new Grand Seiko branding, and price tags of $14,800 for the non-limited SBGC221 and SBGC223 and $15,800 for the limited edition of 500 SBGC219.

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

I want to now take a moment to address that Grand Seiko makes some of the best watches today, and their Spring Drive movement is without hyperbole one of the finest mass-production movements out there. Since this hands-on piece can’t possibly contain the details of these statements, I’m going to refer the uninitiated to two articles written by our own David Bredan. The first is his in-depth explanation and history of the Spring Drive movement and the second is his review of his #TheGrailSeiko, the Grand Seiko Spring Drive Chronograph SBGC001. Done in steel, the SBGC001 is priced at $7,700 but we are now talking about a 2.5X cost premium with the ceramic body and new titanium-ceramic bracelet.

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

All three of these new watches have a 46.4mm wide (a clear sign this is a watch marketed to Western markets) and 16.2mm thick case with the bezel, lugs, and center links on the bracelet done in Zirconia ceramic, a particularly strong and scratch resistant ceramic. The rest of the dial and bracelet are done in titanium, and you’ll notice the ceramic parts are raised on the bracelet in order to protect the titanium from scratching. The logic here being that if the ceramic can take the lion’s share of wear and tear, the scratches won’t show. The dial layout is unchanged from previous Spring Drive GMT watches, with the chronograph sub-dials on the right side of the dial, seconds sub-dial at 9 o’clock, and power reserve indicator right below. Of course, at 11 o’clock is the only branding you’ll see on the dial, with the Grand Seiko name and GS insignia.

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

The hands are all done as one would expect from Grand Seiko and I’m really glad to see that the minute hand and GMT hand are extended in length when compared to last year’s initial Black Ceramic watch. I’m also glad to see that lume was added to the hour, minute, and GMT hands as well as the hour markers (though the limited edition model has non-lumed red gold hour and minute hands). Above you can compare last year’s dial with the new Black Ceramic dial.

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Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

On that note, I actually want to briefly get back to the newly designed seconds sub-dial. The refinement of the dial now makes it appear like the power reserve indicator almost cascades down naturally from the seconds sub-dial, which also features the new “propeller” shaped seconds hand of varying length. The shorter hand corresponds to and matches up to the inner seconds ring (indicating the first 30 seconds of a minute) and the longer hand corresponds to and matches up with the outer seconds ring (indicating the second half of the minute).

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

The fact that the power reserve indicator partially obstructed the Grand Seiko logo on last year’s Black Ceramic models really bothered me and I’m so happy to see the newly done dials. I’m glad the slow and steady refinement of their products is always in the front of the minds at Grand Seiko. This reminds me of the “Rolex way” of continuous refinement, such as when they fixed the issue of the far too-short minutes hand on their Explorer with an amended version in 2016.

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

You’ll notice some differences between the limited edition version and the other two, so I’ll explain those here. The non-limited edition SBGC221 (white dial with the very attractive Clous de Paris pattern) and SBGC223 (black dial) have a 24-hour scale on the bezel and have the Caliber 9R86 Spring Drive movement. This movement has a 72-hour power reserve and is accurate to ±1 seconds per day, or ±15 seconds per month.

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

The SBGC219 is a limited edition run of 500 pieces, designed to celebrate the 10-year anniversary of the Spring Drive Chronograph GMT movement. This model has some differences, starting with the fact that the bezel features a tachymeter scale. I suppose this is a way to differentiate the limited edition from the other versions but I personally would never opt for a tachymeter scale and find them particularly vestigial as well as quite unattractive. That’s just me, though.

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

Other distinguishing factors for the limited edition model are a blue dial color, rose gold hands and markers, an 18k rose gold Grand Seiko lion on the oscillating weight (sorry we had to use a press image of this), and an 18k rose gold Grand Seiko logo on the buckle. The movement is also different, with the 9R96 “specially adjusted” movement, which has an accuracy of ±0.5 seconds per day or ±10 seconds per month.

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

The luxury sports watch field is fiercely competitive and packed with some of the most popular watches from some of the most well-known brands. The Omega Speedmaster Co-Axial Chronograph Dark Side of The Moon Black Ceramic ($12,000), Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean GMT Deep Black ($11,700), Rolex Daytona ($12,400), and Hublot Big Bang 44 ($13,600) are all less expensive than any of the three Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Chronograph watches I discussed here. That’s some stiff competition, even when you consider the fact that the buyer of these high-end Grand Seikos will typically be looking for something not as common as the “competitors” I just mentioned. Perhaps another (very charitable) way to look at it is that the Grand Seikos are significantly less expensive than the chronograph steel offerings like the Patek Philippe Nautilus, the Audemars Piguet Royal Oak, or Vacheron Constantin Overseas watches, all of which are well into the mid to high $20,000 mark. That is a very ambitious analysis, to be honest.

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

Grand Seiko Black Ceramic Spring Drive Chronograph GMT Watches Hands-On Hands-On

Part of the difficulty is pinpointing exactly where the “new” Grand Seiko (without the Seiko) offerings like these Black Ceramic sports watches will land, not just in sales but how well prices on the grey and second-hand market hold up. The product quality, finishing, and movement are there but the “X-factor” of brand positioning in the already crowded non-Japanese market they are targeting is going to be tough for Grand Seiko. That being said, with offerings like their SBGD001 Spring Drive 8-Day Power Reserve watch, we know Grand Seiko can’t be faulted for a lack of trying, let alone their success in concept and execution of high-end timepieces.

Once again, pricing for the Grand Seiko Black Ceramic SBGC221 and SBGC223 is $14,800 and the limited edition SBGC219 is priced at $15,800 with a run of 500 pieces. grand-seiko.com

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  • Digging the white dial with the Clos du Paris guilloche. And the movement of course. Some of the two tone stuff on the various watches leaves me scratching my head. Maybe it looks great in person, but it’s hard to tell from photos alone if its cool or 70s garish.

    • Bozzor

      Saw them in person over the weekend: they are garish if you have a smaller wrist – and laughable on my tiny ones – but for a larger individual, they looked very prominent, but sporty. And the sheer workmanship – amazing. Probably the worst thing about these watches is that you start picking out flaws in Breguets, VCs and JLCs that normally you would not consider. GS has truly raised the bar of quality…sadly, the price is following trend…

  • Pete Pete

    with the size of a keicar it really doesn’t matter what these look like or whether they are priced realistically. people with wrists sized in the normal range can’t wear these without looking ridiculous. it’s a shame.

  • This looks like a dress watch trying to mimic an Hublot. The result is comic and I don’t think the sword hand GS aesthetic translates well to sports watches. The case looks like a 500$ Promaster SST and that bracelet would look great on a $200 Michael Kors.

    • Pete Pete

      (unfortunately) you’re right. these extremely sporty models just don’t work.

      and to be honest, I don’t see the necessity for gs to push the level of sportiness. most gs models are already on the more casual side of dress watches (considering the usual steel bracelet and the thickness of the watches). great allrounders for formal and casual occasions, but definitely leaning towards the casual side. if they want to extent the range, it should be on the formal side.

      • I actually really like their GS divers — they are quirky and full of character. So there they already have a “sportier” GS line that could work with more extreme designs. Although I shudder to think of the thickness when the 600m spring drive diver is 17.6mm without a chronograph…

  • IanE

    What a strange mix of ingredients has been used to construct these watches, esp. the sub-dials and, even more esp., the weird mix used in the handset – almost as though these have been put together after a random raid on the corporate parts bin. They may please the Japanese eye, but they certainly don’t please my eyes – which, indeed, are also brought to tears by the pricing.

  • Tea Hound

    It’s always interesting and strange to see a Grand Seiko. On one level, the finishing and technology used is first rate (ah – those hands!), but the aesthetics are clearly very different from the usual western idea of how an expensive watch should look, and to my eyes the Seiko designs never quite work properly. This watch is no exception – the odd sub-dial layout, the awful size and positioning of the power reserve, the ever terrible Grand Seiko logo, and the bracelet that, as ever with Seiko, looks like it was designed by someone who never saw the actual watch, and indeed never saw the end of the 70s.

    Novel, but pass.

  • Raymond Wilkie

    15k for a Seiko,…………………the world has gone mad !

    • Pete Pete

      oh no, you forgot that marketing stunt, seiko separating gs as an “independent” brand. so it’s not a seiko anymore!

      even though I think it’s bullsh**, I can see why they did it. unlike japanese people westerners are not willing to accept a luxury product from a brand that also offers non luxury or even low end products. toyota needed to establish lexus to make americans pay premium for their cars (the exact same models where sold as toyotas in japan until a few years ago). it’s all about the brand image, it’s all in our heads.

  • Yan Fin

    Stealth wealth …. please, it still looks like Seiko.

  • ProJ

    As usual with any GS: amazing case and dial finishing, some very useful complications that are rarely seen all together in a high end watch (chronograph + GMT + date + PR)

    However, I find it very ugly to be honest.

    The watch needs to be seriously thinner and smaller. It also needs more kinda sporty hands. Oh and get rid of that 2-tone non-sense.

  • A_watches

    prefer this to daytona ceramic

  • mark

    I think there are better looking watches out there for that price.

  • Robert McKean

    Interesting watch, but… Pay 12K for a Rolex Daytona and if you want or need to sell it in five years, you will recover a significant chunk of what you paid. Grand Seiko? I am pretty sure you will not.

  • SuperStrapper

    The case and bracelet work here really looks outstanding. Aesthetically I might have changed a few things. And this should be a 42mm watch. And be in the $10k field.

    Broken Social Scene won a Juno for album of the year… twice. Not obscure, and certainly well known by music loving masses.

  • Ginojin
  • Mark1884

    Per usual, this Seiko does absolutely nothing for me. Very strange looking with it’s mixed up materials that look like they don’t fit together correctly.
    15k?…… please put down the pipe!!!
    The Daytona is the no brainer choice!!
    Stealth wealth?? Can’t figure that one out here.
    More like overt waste of money.

    • UniversalXpectator

      It doesn’t know what it is… A Seiko, An Astron, a Hublot or an Invicta?

  • drThrillman

    I really like GS but this one doesn’t do it for me personally

  • BNABOD

    46/16/15Gs is all you need to know to figure out it is too much of everything.
    GS makes a awesome watch, the bracelet looks super cool w a clasp worthy of its name (at least on pictures). I dig the sporty look because I don’t dig the regular GS bland look. So to me this is a nice departure but like I said 46/16/15gs is just too much all around.
    42/12/10 would make this a consideration

    • Yeah – those dimensions and a single case and bracelet color.

      • BNABOD

        But noooo they had to go for bingo bango. Would look great on a Sumo though

  • “Grand Seiko watches are exceptionally made and the epitome of “stealth wealth”

    Stealth Wealth is a euphemism for “Rationalization for spending $15k on this massive jumble of discordant design.”

  • Larry Holmack

    Well, I really love this one. Great size, looks awesome and it doesn’t have the Rolex logo on it!

    • Yeah that would ruin a Grand Seiko, ha ha.

  • The stealthy part of my wealth (aka the majority of it) is so stealthy not even I can see it!

    • Mr. Snrub

      I’m in the same boat. I once made a trip to my local AD intending to trade-in, I brought with me a beautifully well-patina’d piece of a mother’s love but was informed he couldn’t put a price on it.

  • SharpsvilleBill

    Ok, guys, just to preface I am a SEIKO addict and my name is Bill. I have an Alpinist and at least 4 other Seikos Including a Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT which I ADORE. This white faced Chrono is absolutely beautiful and I want to jump off the bandwagon….um, back on course. GS is unbelievable quality and worth every penny. I own at least 15 Swiss made watches and I will never buy another with the Shi**y ETA 2824 movement which has given me fits in at least 2 watches (Doxa and Glycine) over the years. I only have 4 complaints: 1. The 2 tone bracelet is blah as Hell. 2. The hands should be stick with this look. 3. I love the SEIKO logo and am unhappy they caved and ditched it for the GS line. 4. I don’t like the oddly offset GS logo which may have something to do with #3. Otherwise, except for the enormous size (maybe #5) I really like the piece. I have owned SEIKO watches since the early 60’s and am a huge advocate for price/quality vs the competition. I am wearing my Alpinist right now and it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling!

    • SharpsvilleBill

      p.s. I bought the GS GMT for myself a year ago for my 60th BD since no one even remembered (and on the happier side I retire in 4 years). No pity please because I love that watch more than my omegas, etc..

      • PleaseSpellRoman4AsIV

        You look much younger than 60, what’s your secret?

        • SharpsvilleBill

          😉

          • SharpsvilleBill

            p.s.s I just ordered my second Alpinist that will go in my unworn collection. That is how much I appreciate SEIKO quality and value.

  • frauss

    Planet Ocean meets G-Shock.

  • Rhino67

    I can’t believe they failed to incorporate a rotatable bezel on a GMT. It adds so much functionality.

    • UniversalXpectator

      And no lume on the hands and dial markers!

      • You might want to check the photos in this post again.

  • DanW94

    I love Seiko and Grand Seiko but every now and then they let the design team imbibe on to much sake and they end up with a clusterf**k of a dial like this.

  • Luciano

    That’s really an ugly and overpriced watch. I have a few Seiko (not Grand Seiko though) and love the brand, but I’m failing to understand who will put $15k on one of these.

  • Beefalope

    I love Grand Seiko, and I have the SBGC013 chrono. It’s finished exceptionally and is just an outstanding watch.

    What I don’t understand, however, is why these offerings are roughly 50% more than that one, just as I don’t understand why the SBGC013 was 40% more than many previous GS chronos.

    GS pricing in the last year has just become crazy.

    • Pete Pete

      seiko is trying to establish gs as real luxury brand. officially separating it from seiko and raising the prices to new heights are the main means for that. I personally have some (serious) doubts whether this approach is going to be successful.

      • UniversalXpectator

        They took a page right out of the Swiss watch industry book of tricks.

      • SharpsvilleBill

        Um, if you are in all practical purposes the finest hand-built watch on the Planet, why can’t you charge more that the lesser competition?

        • Which planet? There are a lot of impressive “hand-built” watches on this one (even if virtually none are completely hand-built).

  • creacon

    From what I have seen so far I really like the SBGC219. What I can’t seem to find, however, are close-ups of the bracelet, or more precisely how the links are attached? Are they using screws (what I would expect for a watch in this price range) or pins?

  • otaking241

    It pains me to say it but I think this is a rare miss for GS. The overall design is too busy and cluttered, especially the variation with the textured dial. The handset is also pretty disappointing, especially the hands on the subdials, which look like pretty basic stamped parts. A lot of other companies get away with that but one of the things I always really loved about GS was that all the individual elements of the watch looked like they’d been finished to the nines–I don’t get that impression here. And the two-tone case, I’m sorry to say, looks like something you’d find at a mall kiosk, not on a $15K watch. Is this “stealth wealth?” If this is the direction GS is going to take as it tries to move upmarket I’m not very optimistic about the future.

    • UniversalXpectator

      It also shows that Seiko struggles with making the GS line more appealing to a younger clientele. They end up with an overpriced and updated Ananta just as they did here.

  • TrevorXM

    I simply wouldn’t want to talk to or even meet the dork who’d pay 15k for this lump.

    • UniversalXpectator

      Some dorks pay as much or more for a Hublot.

      • TrevorXM

        I have another word for them.

  • Marius

    Although Grand Seiko is one of my favourite brands (I particularly like the GMT), I find this watch quite nightmarish.

    Firstly, from a design perspective, this is one of the ugliest watches that I have ever laid my eyes upon. The considerable case dimensions (47 mm/17 mm) make this watch look quite ridiculous on the wrist. The dial is much too busy & crowded, whilst the ceramic parts look extremely weird and out-of-place. Overall, the angular and chuncky design make this watch look like a bulldozer, or like a wrist device worn by the Autobot transformer Bumbelbee.

    Secondly, whilst I find the Spring Drive movement to be technically interesting, as well as nicely-finished, in my opinion, it arrived on the market a bit too late. Its main forte, i.e. the +-1 sec./day accuracy is very good, but the “problem” is that modern mechanical movements are also getting quite accurate. For instance, the new Rolex 3255 caliber series has an accuracy of +-2 sec./day. Sure, a Spring Drive caliber is more accurate than a standard mechanical one, but the differences are not that great. What’s more, Seiko recommends that these watches should be serviced every three years (by comparison, Rolex requires a service every ten years), and the service can be performed only in Japan, meaning that the waiting time is an aspect that should be seriously considered before making the purchase.

    Lastly, the almost $16,000 price is also rather ridiculous. The article mentions competitors such as the Omega Ceramic Speedmaster, or the Rolex Mayertona. Yet, for exactly the same price, you could also purchase a JLC Master Compressor Chronograph in ceramic, or a Blancpain Bathyscaphe Flyback Chrono in ceramic featuring the great F385 caliber. Not to mention that for slightly under $17,000 you could buy an AP Royal Oak 15400ST, which is what I would buy instead of this unprepossessing, unsightly, and beastly “watch.”

    • TrevorXM

      “Its main forte, i.e. the +-1 sec./day accuracy is very good, but the
      “problem” is that modern mechanical movements are also getting quite
      accurate.”

      Because it was so cheap I couldn’t resist any more, I just bought an inexpensive Glycine Combat Sub for about $400 and over the past three days it is operating at +1 second a day. And that’s with a lowly ETA 2824.

      Your servicing comment is the one that fools who buy these Spring Drive watches don’t really consider — until they are nailed with a four figure servicing the first time they send it in! These are pointless money pits. A mechanical GS is a far better buy.

      • UniversalXpectator

        To be honest, GS mechanical models do absolutely nothing for me. The HI Beats are interesting but I much rather have a new Rolex OP, Air King, DJ, etc over any of them. The accuracy of the Rolex 31xx family is superior to the 9S GS calibers.

      • SharpsvilleBill

        Modern mechanical movements may be getting higher Megahertz ratings and accuracy, BUT that higher frequency may NOT equal reliability and require more service. Time (no pun intended) will tell.

        • UniversalXpectator

          With all due respect, please familiarize yourself at least with the basics of the SD movement before you make statements about “megahertz” ratings that have nothing to do with how they work.

          Spring Drive has been out for close to 19 years, first launched in 1998 with the Credor 7R manual wound calibers. In my experience of owning several in a span of 7 years, I can tell you these can go with long service intervals in between and are rock solid reliable.

          After all, it took Seiko 30 years to develop them and over 600 prototypes beginning with the first one in 1977.

          • SharpsvilleBill

            Excuse my ignorance and I bow to your likely higher IQ and thus intelligence. However I own a freaking GS SD and am damn well versed in how they function. I had just worked a 13 hour shift in a VERY busy ICU and misspoke about Mhz. I beg your forgiveness.

      • SharpsvilleBill

        Um, I bought a Doxa Sub 600T with an ($2,300) ETA 2824 movement about 15 years and had to send it to California when the crown fell off after about 5 years. It lay in a drawer for 5 years until after a divorce (wife wouldn’t allow for high dollar svc which ended up being slightly under $1k). Loved the watch so I got it serviced. The SOB 2824 just failed again as the mainspring must have a malfunction or is broken since it does not run at all. The lovely orange-faced Doxa in now a paperweight.
        p.s. I have a GS SD and as the movement has no escapement (which takes a beating) so it should run a REALLY long time since all the parts basically move in 1 direction with maybe a clean and lube after several years. Last time I looked it didn’t cost a lot for that kind of servicing. Anyway a GS SD service for $1k is a helluva lot better deal than $1k for a POS 2824 that might cost a watchmaker $150 off the shelf.

    • UniversalXpectator

      Dear Mario,

      I owned the SBGC001 GS SD GMT Chrono and that watch (At least the case, dial and bracelet) was much more in line with GS design language than this Invicta/Hublot collaboration. At $8200 retail for this or the 003 with black dial (And the customary 25%-30%+ discount from the AD) makes the “Classic” 2007 release GS SD chronos the best looking and best value of the bunch. I fail to understand why these new ugly lumps cost 50% more!

      At those prices, I’d rather have a new Rolex Daytona ceramic.

      Besides, this new GS Chrono watch could have been the ‘Perfect’ Ananta circa 2009. And yes, I did own an Ananta SPS007 SD GMT Chrono that at least had lumed hands and markers and looks even better than this GS sport carbonized impostor for triple the price!.

    • Bilal Khan

      Yeah, all good points. The amount of competition at the price point is near endless, as further illustrated by the examples you mentioned.

    • Bozzor

      The nice (for the initial buyer) thing about Grand Seiko is that outside the boutiques, dealers talk discounts. Whilst limited edition models in high demand go at recommended, 10% discount is a given, 15% not too hard to get, and 20% can be done in some cases. Beyond that, use your charm!

  • Pete L

    For a brand that tends to go under the radar these are a wee bit shouty. I liked the green dial on leather strap from last year as although large it was subtle – these in 46mm with the two-tone bracelet are too ‘in your face’.
    Whilst I love the innovative movement and great legibility i cant see many wanting to pay so much when other great brands come into the picture at this price point.
    If you want a loud, tasteless, expensive bling dinner plate there is always Hublot…..

  • Marius

    Excellent comment!

    • UniversalXpectator

      Thank you Marius! Truly enjoy your commentary and contributions in this site.

  • SharpsvilleBill

    Nissan GTR better than a Ferrari, Corvette, etc? Maybe so but folks may not get past the Nissan badge. Unfortunate…

  • Jeffrey Wong

    Smaller size, less busy dial and just going with GS on the dial with Seiko on the edge of the dial would be my preference.

  • John Stevens

    This watch seems to me to be the exact opposite of the direction I thought Grand Seiko were headed, which i assumed was understated everyday elegance and superb finishing. This looks so Japanese in a Citizen or Casio type of way, the design elements are off on this and the price is ludicrous when you consider what’s out there around the same price.

  • Kuroji

    Best Carerra yet!

  • BRIAN

    So if I use my J C Penny card can i also use the 20% coupon? Oh sorry thought it was something else.

    GS has some nice designs but this just has too much going on and I get the high tech finishes but some just look cheap. Shame because the quality is incredible.

  • benjameshodges

    A Blog to Seiko.

  • #The Deplorable Boogur T. Wang

    Too much.
    Just too much.

  • Ulysses31

    It’s awfully bold for a Seiko, but bold in a bad way. They need to design a watch that is bold and ugly that sells well, like pretty much every watch Hublot have ever made. People will gladly lap up that garbage in preference to this. I also question the wisdom of using ceramic elements to protect the titanium, when Seiko and Citizen have had super-hard surface treatments for their titanium watches for decades, making the protection less than necessary. IF they haven’t used such a treatment here I wonder why they’d expect anyone to pay so much for this watch.

  • Ian john horwood

    I’m totally no fan of any of the ceramic model range what so ever, only my mark 1 sbgc003.

  • MHUH H

    First of all @Bilal Khan you lucky guy…. is it possible to rotate the dial on the black 24 hour dial ? thank you.