Car & Watch Review: Infiniti QX80 Limited SUV & Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001

Car & Watch Review: Infiniti QX80 Limited SUV & Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001

Car & Watch Review: Infiniti QX80 Limited SUV & Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001 Wrist Time Reviews

I typically have good results when mixing things which are both high-end and Japanese. Down in South Florida where performance speaks louder than pizazz, I decided see how well a Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001 watch matched with a 2017 Infiniti QX80 Limited luxury, true SUV. Grand Seiko represents the apex of timekeeping at Japanese Seiko, and Infiniti QX80 Limited represents what I believe is the most expensive vehicle currently sold by Japanese Nissan's higher-end Infiniti car division.

Car & Watch Review: Infiniti QX80 Limited SUV & Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001 Wrist Time Reviews

What the Spring Drive GMT and QX80 have in common is that they are each first about function, and second about status or image. That's not a bad thing, but it is helpful to know when trying to understand the genesis of these two items, especially in the context of luxury goods. In their own distinct ways, this watch and this car each attempt to offer world-class utility for a market of buyers who probably need only a portion of that utility.

Car & Watch Review: Infiniti QX80 Limited SUV & Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001 Wrist Time Reviews

Car & Watch Review: Infiniti QX80 Limited SUV & Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001 Wrist Time Reviews

While it is meant to serve as a capable traveler's watch able to remain functioning and very accurate in even the most remote regions of the earth, most wearers of the Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001 will likely not venture too far from a major international airport. Similarly, while the Infiniti QX80 can traverse trails far from paved roads (but not gasoline sources), its most demanding trials for the majority of owners will probably be towing home a week's worth of groceries for a large family.

Car & Watch Review: Infiniti QX80 Limited SUV & Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001 Wrist Time Reviews

Having said all that, I'm rarely the type of person to get excited about mere sustenance and the satisfaction of basic needs. But why is it that we seek more than we actually need? I really don't need a wristwatch with fancy diamond-polished hour markers and some of the industry's best hands... just to legibly tell the time. I also don't need an urban people-mover with a sophisticated automatic four-wheel drive system that wants to battle mud when I'm just trying to handle some rain. Or do I?

Car & Watch Review: Infiniti QX80 Limited SUV & Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001 Wrist Time Reviews

Car & Watch Review: Infiniti QX80 Limited SUV & Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001 Wrist Time Reviews

One school of thought when it comes to desiring luxury tools is that as we gain greater appreciation of the engineering and design that goes into the machines we rely on, the more we desire better-made and high-performance machines. This is different than desiring luxury to show off status or success. It's a very personal desire which, in a sense, is as quiet as the person's appreciation for that particular mechanical art. Thus, applying this motivation to luxury items, the desire is more introverted about about the person owning/using the items, versus extroverted and mostly about other people seeing that person owning/using their luxuries.

Car & Watch Review: Infiniti QX80 Limited SUV & Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001 Wrist Time Reviews

Idle thoughts like this tend to populate my mind even as I'm enjoying the pink sunsets made famous by generations of South Florida sun worship from Miami down to Key West, which is the exact route we are driving the "Mocha Almond-colored" monolith of a truck down into Margaritaville country.

Car & Watch Review: Infiniti QX80 Limited SUV & Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001 Wrist Time Reviews

Car & Watch Review: Infiniti QX80 Limited SUV & Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001 Wrist Time Reviews

I like saying "truck" because the Infiniti QX80 is just that. This isn't a plush sedan on a raised suspension with aggressive styling. This is an old-school high-end SUV built on a truck-style chassis slathered in as much leather and electronic goodies as the minds back in Japan can imagine up. Autos like this are uncommon these days because of gas prices and the taboo against big thirsty combustion engines. Twenty years ago they were all the rage. Today, the landscape of large high-end SUVs actually designed for off-road use is smaller, but with famous options from brands including Land Rover, Lexus, and of course, Infiniti.

The Japanese have always had a thing for these lux-riding rubble-crawlers, and they happen to do them very well. Some people complain that these cars suffer from "aging platforms," but in reality these people don't always understand that there are trade-offs for being a truck. In exchange for comfort off-road and dealing with terrain that isn't only smooth pavement, you lose some ride quality, stability, handling, and of course, poise.

Car & Watch Review: Infiniti QX80 Limited SUV & Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001 Wrist Time Reviews

Car & Watch Review: Infiniti QX80 Limited SUV & Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001 Wrist Time Reviews

Infiniti uses a lot of clever tricks to mask the truck that lies beneath the chic design of the QX80. A fancy hydraulic suspension system (Hydraulic Body Motion Control), seven speed automatic transmission, and sizable 5.6-liter naturally aspirated V8 that produces 400 horsepower keep the clearly voluminous Infiniti QX80 Limited feeling about as nimble as you can expect. If you desperately want a pure car-driving experience, then you need something built like a car. If you want (or need) a truck for regular inclement weather or off-roading but don't want to feel like you are driving one all the time, then something like the Infiniti QX80 will be near the top of your list.

Car & Watch Review: Infiniti QX80 Limited SUV & Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001 Wrist Time Reviews
Source: Infiniti.ca

There are many parts of the world where wealthy people encountering the above conditions need cargo carriers to lug themselves and supplies around their estate or towns. I do, however, feel that in urban areas the Infiniti QX80, and its highest-end QX80 Limited are show-off vehicles. There is nothing inherently wrong with that, and a lot of people use the space of a fortress like this and enjoy the commanding seating position... but they do know their vehicle of choice is not in its natural environment. For that reason alone, it is a decadence (it just might not be your flavor of preferred decadence). Don't forget that you can't have luxury without decadence. The two concepts are linked for us consumers.

Car & Watch Review: Infiniti QX80 Limited SUV & Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001 Wrist Time Reviews

With watches, I am much more comfortable in varying my choice of decadence, as timepieces are easier to own in numbers. In that way, cars are a greater commitment, if only because of their size. Seiko's Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001 is probably the type of watch many people would be glad to own as their sole timepiece, but for me it's a go-to choice for when I want to personally admire the effort that went into the tool on my wrist. It isn't just for impressing other nerdy watch lovers, even if it happens to do that well.

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  • Elijs Dima

    That’s a seriously hideous car. Hope Nissan paid well enough for the coverage.

  • The Seiko is a high precision machine disguised as a tool. The Infiniti is a tool trying to disguise itself as a luxury car. While I think the Seiko is a bit boring looking, it is function that defines form so a lot is forgiven. The Infiniti tries to look like something it is not. It comes across as a gussied up truck at a luxury SUV price.

    $90K for something that makes your passengers car sick on pavement? That seem unacceptable to me (I’ve owned BMW X1 and X3 and have track driven X5M and X6M vehicles).

    In the real world where SUVs rarely encounter much more than snow and a gravel road, a car-like vehicle with 4 wheel drive and adequate ground clearance seems like the choice in the same way that most people don’t need a dive watch with more than 300 meters of water resistance. Yes, there are individuals who need extreme tools/toys. But that case for that was not made with the use made of the QX80 in this post. Plus I wouldn’t want to drive it nor be seen in it.

    The Seiko has some very appealing aspects to me (Spring Drive and those incredible hour markers – the non-lumed ones with the brushed top and polished facets) but as always, the styling is not compelling for me. All function and no designer influenced form to my eye.

    Thanks for the review on the Seiko.

    • IanE

      Added to which, the world (well, ok, British roads) would be a much less cluttered and crowded place if less of these over-sized prams (for the school-run safety, don’t-you-know?) were produced and purchased.

      • And here I thought (from watching old episodes of Top Gear) that caravans (RV and trailers in the U.S.) were the blight on the motorways and A roads in the UK.

        • On motorways and A-roads, perhaps, but those are fairly large roads. I suspect Ian’s talking about SUVs taking up space on small residential, suburban and city roads, which often have cars parked on both sides and are barely (or just not) wide enough for two cars to pass each other.

          Outside of A-roads and motorways, British roads are pretty narrow.

      • Jon Snow

        Actually, it’s the dowdy, chip-on-shoulder, holier than thou cyclists that clutter up the roads and create unnecessary delay and pollution.

        • IanE

          Don’t see many of those where I live: it’s too hilly!

      • Lincolnshire Poacher

        Don’t cha-know…Super school run today in the little run about, Darling.

    • Sevenmack

      Most people don’t need a watch, either. You can tell the time with a smartphone thanks to the advancement known as network time protocol. Thanks to quartz, radio signals, and GPS, you definitely don’t need a mechanical or Spring Drive. But we buy and review watches just like we do with SUVs.

  • Antjay

    The only people who could possibly appreciate the Infinity would require a braille watch . I innocently clicked on ABTW only to have my retinas assaulted by this hideous 4 wheeled monstrosity . I will comment on the watch when my vision returns .

  • Ariel Adams

    The design of the QX80 grows on you, although I know it is not universally loved. It s a good functional car and you appreciate how Infiniti did an interesting job of making it look unique and not so huge despite the vehicle’s otherwise massive performance. If the car itself was bad I would not have nearly as fond a feeling for the overall design. There are a lot of watches we could say this about as well.

  • Bill W

    Love cars but I hope the car & watch reviews don’t become a thing around here. Also love pizza. Maybe you could do a web series “Eating Pizza in Cars with Watches”.

    • Ariel Adams

      What would you do to make these car & watch reviews more appealing to you? You mention that you love cars and that you love watches. So we do. Try to explain how for someone like you how we can combine both.

      • error406

        Dude, how about leaving the car reviews to blogs about, you know, cars?

      • IG

        Did this idea come from the “my hand on the wheel wearing my watch” pictures on watch forums? I’m just curious about the thought process.

        • Ariel Adams

          Easily 90% of the watch lovers I’ve met also seem to be into cars. That also represents the aBlogtoWatch team. We talk about them as much as timepieces. We like the idea of including car content but wanted to bring it back to the watch world. I’m not saying everyone has to love it, but I’m truly befuddled by how some people don’t see the connection or relevance. I come from a place where the car culture is so much deeper than the watch culture, and I have in many instances as much to say about cars as I do watches. I think our team genuinely enjoys speaking about them in addition to watches from time to time.

          • Raymond Wilkie

            With all due respect, am the one thats truly befuddled. 90% you say ?. If you guys want to talk about gas guzzling SUV’s start a new blog.

          • IG

            Yeah I can see the connection (men’s toys, lifestyle etc.). Seemingly you are unlucky to have a hardened anti-car or strictly watch aficionado crowd here 😀 Personally I hate ICE cars for obvious reasons, but electric cars are game. Maybe you could manage a Tesla P100D or Chevy Bolt “review” with Apple or Android “watches”, having an actual connection between them (official or third-party apps to control the cars)… 😀

          • Joel Schumann

            I’m not even remotely interested in cars – having been hit once in a hit-and-run accident didn’t help – for all I care cars are a necessary evil (though not as necessary as people would have it) However, if the stuff is well written, gives me some interesting historic background and make relevant couplings I would read it, no problem. My brother’s best friend writes about cars professionally and his articles are just plain fun to read.

            I’ll be honest, the attempts here seems forced and there is nothing – with my zero knowledge background – I could not have come up with and it is not exactly put in sparkling prose. Generally you have very little to say and most is fluff that an editor would have hit DEL.

            The photography is quite good, though. I think I’ll just stick to skim the photos and read the comments. No worries!

          • I see your point…sort of…but they’re two very different hobbies, and these awkward and forced mashups of the two are, IMHO, every bit as fatuous as almost every “automotive-themed” hodgepodge watch out there. Really, I don’t even bother to read them.

          • Antjay

            Anyone who is “into cars” would vomit at the sight at this monstrosity, and laugh in the face of anyone stupid or gullible enough to buy one !

      • Bill W

        I would suggest you “stay in your lane”. I know people hate to hear that and you seem kinda determined to have some automotive content. I don’t know what to tell you…start another blog just on cars…or do it here sparingly, and only when there is a strong, concrete connection between the watch and the car. Not just “well, they’re both from Japan…”

        I wouldn’t mind seeing a “How It’s Made” video series, from the first drawing to the final product. I guess you could do that on cars as well as watches to see what the similarities in the production processes are.

      • Rupert Muller

        I can explain what would make it more appealing to me:
        I do not own a car and never have in my life before. But I currently have my garage full of bicycles. So if you would link a new watch to a new mountainbike it would hit my interest considerably more.

    • Reminds me of Seinfeld’s Comedians In Cars Getting Coffee: http://comediansincarsgettingcoffee.com/

      • Bill W

        Yeah, that was my intent. Glad you caught it. 🙂

    • IG

      What about “Having Sex in Cars Wearing Watches”? Lot of people could relate to that.

  • error406

    I can deal with sponsored content, but a car ad crosses the line for me. I cannot accurately pinpoint why, but it pisses me off. Maybe it’s just the assumption “if you like A you surely like B” that bothers me.

    Should be noted that I have zero interests in cars, haven’t owned a car in decades and live in a place where owning a car is pointless. For me, this is just as misplaced as an article about a watch and a washing machine.

    • IG

      What happens when the line got crossed?

    • Joel Schumann

      Forget about cars!

      I’m in the market for a new dish washer and I hear there are many exciting trends for 2017. So more dishwasher + watches articles, please. Unfortunately, the Swiss doesn’t seem to be big on domestic appliances, but articles on Bauhaus washers, Apple watch and dish washers, Japanese watches and washers – from Panasonic I can get rice cookers too, so that’s a triple focus articles waiting to be written there. And are there by any chance all American made washers out of Detroit?

      I hope the editor will realize how easily motivated the connection between watches and dish washers is. Send me a note, if you want me to do the write ups!

      • Jon Snow

        “And are there by any chance all American made washers out of Detroit?”

        They’re “assembled” in Detroit using Swiss motors.

  • Seb

    Bitchin’ watch! probably my Grail. *Drools*

  • G Street

    Twat ‘Im, Yojimbo!!!

  • The Reclusive Boogur T. Wang

    Nice watch and a good review of it.
    I see most of the anti-SUV folks are Brits or others from where an auto or SUV is viewed with “class envy.” Typical. Never happy until everyone is reduced to “their” level of impoverishment.
    While I am certainly not of that group; I do have a built in disdain for SUVs.
    They just seem to be unnecessary excess. (up-armored personal protection vehicles excluded)
    So, while I appreciate the time and energy spent on the Infinity, and can also appreciate the re-sale-ability of the written piece, I do hope to see more articles just featuring comments on watches and watch-related things.
    Just my US$0.02’s worth.

    • G Street

      You based your rant on a single post by IanE?
      Last time I checked he didn’t speak for the UK.

    • IG

      You can buy cheap(er) SUVs so I’m not sure about the “class envy”. Maybe it’s a bloody crowded island so hauling around your solo fat arse in a megaton SUV is just waste of resources?

      • Jon Snow

        Yes, in fact it’s the sink estate types here who bankrupt themselves buying the most ostentatious 4×4 then drive around slowly with Kanye Bieber on the sound system.

    • If you are thinking of things like a Hummer, I agree. On the other hand, smaller SUVs (or cross overs as they are called in the U.S.) represent the modern version of the venerable station wagon (estate or touring in other places). I loved my former X1 – gave me a degree of utility and drove like a car. 25 mpg, etc. Not excessive at all. On the other hand my M6 is a gas hog but I try to keep the miles down on it. My X1 replacement (as of 2 weeks ago) is an X3 and I would have done another X1 but I got a deal on the X3 and it’s still small by American full-size SUV standards. What one drives has to be taken within the context of your location. Cheers.

  • Raymond Wilkie

    I’ve tried really hard, but i CANNOT see the connection, because quite honestly, their isn’t one. Class envy?,…………………………now your talking nonsense.

  • brew108

    “Down in South Florida where performance speaks louder than pizazz” Lost credibility right here

  • “Down in South Florida where performance speaks louder than pizazz”

    I suppose you’re talking about the Keys, because there’s no way that’s true in Miami. And if you are talking about the Keys, the locals are laughing at you if you’re driving around in a $90,000 Nissan. Here in NY, only two types of people drive Infinities: the douchebag sons of Albanian wanna-be mob bosses and the wives of bank managers from Westchester.

    I understand the desire to connect luxury goods, I really do; there’s a good chance that if you’re purchasing expensive watches, you’re probably also purchasing other expensive items. Pretty simple equation. It just doesn’t feel organic in this case; you rented a car and then typed up some data about that car that sounds suspiciously like ad copy. “Hydraulic Body Motion Control” is what an Infinity salesperson might gush about when all he really needs to say is, “If you buy a $90K SUV, your neighbors in Scarsdale will be jealous.”

    I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that most people that are into watches have hobbies, pastimes and passions that they actively attempt to link to their watch purchase decisions (if you can say that ‘90% of the watch lovers I’ve met also seem to be into cars,’ then I feel comfortable making a similar broad, sweeping statement). I’m a diver, hence, I’m interested in dive watches from both a utilitarian and design standpoint. I’m also a traveler, and spend more time deciding which watches and straps to bring on a trip than I do packing for said trip. I couldn’t care less about cars – least of all some blinged out ersatz truck purchased by parvenus and soccer moms – unless they serve as a character in some overarching narrative. I once did a 20 day trek across the Nepal and Tibetan Plateau in a 15 year old battered Land Cruiser that was prone to oil leaks and flat tires and whose interior was patched together with duct tape and prayers. On the last day, I forged such a bond with that rattletrap truck that I offered to buy from my guide on the spot. I was wearing an equally battered Seiko SKX throughout the trip; I think the connection is clear.

  • HectorAsuipe

    Great watch, hideous vehicle. There is no reason to have either when less resource intensive and less obnoxious alternatives exist, but the Grand Seiko does not continue to eat away at the earth and our aesthetics while that rolling idiot box does.

  • Raymond Wilkie

    Well, i think it’s fairly unanimous. Lets keep it a WATCH blog.

    • Sevenmack

      Why? More than a few watch geeks take watch and steering wheel photos. Why not actually talk about the cars. Especially since the latter is necessary for most of us.

      • Raymond Wilkie

        It’s not for me. Never owned a car ( we walk here in Scotland ) and i hate to point out the obvious but this is a watch blog
        Horology and petrol heads are a breed apart.
        I HAVE SPOKEN !.

        • SuperStrapper

          You talk while typing? I can see that, actually…

  • Cars, watches, South Florida. I get to live it year-round 😉 I welcome the addition of automotive content on these pages, and I don’t see any conflict with the core focus on watches. There was plenty of the latter in this writeup, and it’s a natural pairing for 99% of the watch collector’s I’ve known. Besides, I enjoyed my brief experience with this weird purple pachyderm of a luxe truck while Ariel had in for review.
    Best,
    Tim

    • Marius

      “… and it’s a natural pairing for 99% of the watch collector’s I’ve known. ”

      There are other natural pairings that I would like to point out:

      Watch collectors & socks.
      Watch collectors & underwear.
      Watch collectors & Viagra pills.
      Watch collectors & hairdressers.
      Watch collectors & Thai ladyboys (here` s to Archie)
      Watch collectors & Jewelers on Time

      • Bill W

        Maybe a “How To Match Your Watch Strap To Your Belt” video by Sven Raphael Schneider. Or “Which Wiswatch To Wear With Your Guido Maggis” by The Pontiff.

      • Cars and watches notwithstanding, I’m willing to bet most collectors only actually get excited about the Viagra. Ariel wrote an article about taking a vacation with a watch, and it included a truck. I can’t see why anyone’s getting angry about this. Or how class backlash suddenly ignites on a site long dedicated to exorbitant man jewelry. You like not, you read not; everyone wins.
        Best,
        Tim

        • Marius

          I don’t know who you are, but I do know that you have a lot to learn about etiquette. I am the watch guru, and the most important commenter of this sorry blog. You, being a lesser and inferior commenter, have no right to reply to my comments and/or send me messages. Besides, your pathetic opinion doesn’t interest me.

          The procedure to contact me is quite complicated. First, you need to schedule an appointment with my assistant and fill out a long application form. Then, a group of specialists will perform a thorough analysis of your application and decide if you are worthy of the great privilege of being allowed to contact me.

          • Was that supposed to be funny or just pathetic?

          • SuperStrapper

            Yes.

        • Don’t mind Marius, his humor and rants overlap a lot.

          • That’s OK, I love him all the same.
            Best,
            Tim

    • Bill W

      Did it show a “tendency to porpoise” on curves and turns? 🙂

  • Bill W
  • SuperStrapper

    In all honesty, I hope we have a minimum of 1 car & watch review a week. Not just because I love both cars and watches, but because I can’t get enough of the butthurt commentary. That people are actually OFFENDED is nothing short of awesome.

    Regardless, I don’t know that this purple people eater matches up so well with the Seiko, but it was an entertaining review of both products. I personally don’t have a lot of appreciation for the luxury side brands that many automotive manufacturers create for the North American market. They come with more bells and whistles, sure, but I’d rather just see better trim lines in the core brand offerings. You only see it here because north Americans often have such fragile egos, and ‘well I fucking work on the 43rd floor of the XYZ building on Bay street: I can’t been seen in a Nissan, I need something BETTRRR’. There are a few battle tested sister brands that have been around long enough to have a somewhat uniquely identifiable personality, like Honda’s Acura or Ford’s Lincoln, but for the most part I find the styling and designs to be better thought out in the core brand than in the luxury brand. Almost as though the design process is backwards for the luxury car: figure out the trim and feature sets, wrap is all in leather and burl veneer, and then figure out how to wrap it all in a car.

    • Sevenmack

      Agreed. The crowd who hang out here are so high maintenance and pretentious. Love to see them get all angry and haughty.

  • Beefalope

    Ok, it’s one thing to have a Miata/watch review because the Miata is awesome. But this hideous tank is a horrible affront to all that is great about cars.

    The Grand Seiko is terrific, as usual.

    Keep motoring.

  • BNABOD

    well there it is the Infiniti tank. Look, I like infiniti they make good sporty models. I owned a G37S for a while, good performance, good price but this gas guzzling hog is just butt ugly and yes I live in the US of A. So I am not anti SUV I am just anti ugly and this thing is just plain gagalicious. Now the watch is very nice always liked that GS. Not sure about the whole SD thing but I will be in Japan Wed so I might chase one of those puppies down. there was one w gold accents which was perty. Now the bracelet, yadi yadi yada not the best ….really? yes it does not have micro adjustments but once you size it properly ( I did on my SBGM027) and it takes a WHILE because the screws are so damned small it is very comfortable. could they do better with built in adjustment, no doubt and not like like the MM300 tat has this ratcheting 80s tech but something a tad more subtle would be nice.

  • Beefalope

    “I really feel as though the Infinity QX80 feels comfortable in its own skin, and that is more than I think can be said for many other cars on the market.”

    If someone can explain to me what in the hell this sentence means and how it makes a lick of sense, I’d be greatly appreciative.

    Thanks.

    • Marius

      It means that Ariel Adams has the miraculous ability to talk with cars. In Los Angeles he is known as the “Car Whisperer.”

      • Bill W

        He’s like the kid from ‘Christine’.

    • Ariel Adams

      My implication was that many cars struggle to find a specific purpose. They try to appeal to too many people while not appealing to anyone. They blend various sacrifices in design and performance to meet particular goals in size, fuel efficiency, etc.. The QX80 is what it is, and knows what it is. You don’t have to like it, but after driving it for a short amount of time you know exactly what and who it is meant for.

  • Beefalope

    “You have many options when buying an SUV these days, as well as a luxury SUV. You have fewer options if you want a more true SUV that combines a capable on-road and off-road experience, with the type of all-climate, all-weather safety you should probably hope for in a vehicle such as this.”

    Pure nonsense.

    First off, no one in their right mind is taking this thing off-roading.

    Second, every other SUV above the $40k mark will have luxury features and highly capable AWD systems. You don’t need to spend $90k on this trash.

    • Bill W

      It’s not about the off-roading. It’s about the coke smuggling capacity.

    • commentator bob

      The base re-designed Nissan Armada version of this is just over $40,000 and a much better value than a base Yukon or Tahoe. This is the fully optioned ‘slade / Denali equivalent.

  • TrevorXM

    Well I don’t hold anything against ABTW for wanting to follow the Hodinkee model. You want to keep this as your job and make more money doing it — so if it gets you some actual “ratings” or hits, then go for it. And even if it doesn’t, if you like doing it and get to talk dealers / manufacturers into lending you expensive vehicles for a few days, then it’s win – win for ABTW writers. If I were you, Ariel, I wouldn’t get defensive on replying to whiners in the comments section of these things like I see happening down there. They’ll all keep on reading ABTW no matter if you post these combo reviews two or three times a week! Let’s get real, here.

    As for the watch and vehicle in question: both giant big and ugly lumps, and lop-sided in design, though both with lots of great qualities and quality. The Seiko has its really badly balanced dial and the Infinity has its butt-ugly front end. This was one of your more successful combo reviews as they do indeed have a lot in common. And as is pointed out in the review, they really aren’t about prestige in a conventional way. Much better pairing of car and watch than in previous reviews.

  • ??????

    Nonsense megalodon car, but I find it somewhat attractive due to its chaotic design language. You know – ugly and beatiful at the same time kind of thing. People would call you silly, but this car doesn’t look like a thing that you fall in love with from the first sight, more like the one you need time to understand. And this isn’t a bad thing since such feelings may end up as more long lasting.
    Regarding the watch: this isn’t my preferred GS mainly due to 44 mm size and rotated date (which I hate), but these markers and hands almost compensate it.
    I try hard, but see almost no connection between this watch and this car, except that both are Japanese. And I didn’t get captivated by any of them while reading the article. May I suggest Ariel to bring more logical points on how, in his mind, this two objects are connected.

  • DanW94

    Honestly, the backlash against the article is laughable. First off, it’s not like ABTW is becoming Car and Driver here, Sure, it’s a car review but it is coupled with a watch review. I’m not really a “car guy” but I certainly don’t mind it. Second, about the vehicle – It’s like this the first large, luxury vehicle people have ever seen and they’re absolutely mortified that some would actually prefer it over a battery powered tin can or hybrid. Gas guzzler, resource waster? Gimmie a break. Want to save the environment? Do something about the 70 year old, ill fitted, resource gobbling factories that dot the Asian landscape and spew clouds of toxic waste into the air. Oh well, everybody needs a cause I guess…

    • TrevorXM

      “Want to save the environment? Do something about the 70 year old, ill
      fitted, resource gobbling factories that dot the Asian landscape and
      spew clouds of toxic waste into the air.” Don’t forget the endless building of dirty coal-fired power plants still going up in China. These are not the fairly reasonable “clean coal” plants of the US — they are environment destroyers. Pointing this out is exactly the correct response not only to the people on here, but across the internet. Hypocrites and idiots, all of them. I would love to hop in my vintage 911 and go take it for a blast this weekend, but thanks to global warm — er, climate change, it’s snowing (again!) here in Vancouver and all the side streets are ice. I’m counting on the ridiculous Carbon Tax that’s been slapped onto our gasoline to start kicking in any time now and turn things around… NOT.

      I’ll never forget when I lived in Toronto and read all about Al Gore jetting into town in his private plane and getting driven to his big save the planet talk in his gas-guzzling limo motorcade. That was back when it was Global Warming before the rebranding. Everybody was supposed to buy Carbon Credits from his company and submit to schemes like the Kyoto Accord and transfer all our wealth to China and India. The guy was like the ultimate Old West snake oil salesman — I couldn’t believe that people were that stupid to buy any of it. Back when I was a kid there were stories all about the coming Ice Age. I guess there was no money to be made from the rubes nor taxes that could be levied with that story.

  • Marius

    Datsun & Seiko. Yup, these will surely help you get invited at the coolest parties in Miami.

    • commentator bob

      A Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT is no Alec Monopoly.

  • commentator bob

    Going way too far out of my way to make sense of this article: I guess these are both the alternative to the upper-middle class suburban combination of a Yukon Denali and Submariner.

  • otaking241

    I don’t mind the cars/watches review mash-up–I just hate the QX80. If the theme is “finely crafted Japanese consumer products” how about the new Miata? Or if we have to go luxury there’s the new Q60, or any number of better, newer cars that carry that message. This pairing reminds me too much of Tony Soprano driving around in his land-yacht (I think it was an Escalade but could have been a Suburban) flashing his yellow gold President–just kind of “yuck” (but maybe appropriate for South Florida?).

    In terms of constructive criticism, since this is a watch site first how about a review of the car from a watch enthusiast’s perspective? Fit & finish, novelty, brand heritage, quality and heritage of the movement (engine and mechanicals, in this case) etc.

    Would prevent this from being just another “me too,” “A car company noticed I have readers and paid me to go on this junket” fluff piece.

    Reminds me of this: https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2017/01/02

  • Bill W

    Requesting some leather jacket reviews.

    • Berndt Norten

      Brenda and Eddie?

      • DanW94

        Brender and Eddie had had it already by the Summer of 75…..

        • Berndt Norten

          Where was the spring?
          Where was the drive?
          They were both getting lonely
          sittin at greasy spoons dreamin of
          Rollie…

      • Bill W

        Bredan & Ari?

  • Shawn Lavigne

    a blog to car.

    • Beefalope

      The natives are restless.

    • Berndt Norten

      is a blog too far

  • Larry Holmack

    I can say the Infiniti QX80 can accommodate us taller guys rather easily. My wife and I are looking for a new SUV and one of our friends is the Sales Manager at the local dealership and he loaned us one for the day. I had my doubts, but I adjusted the seat, slid in and found that it was a very comfortable SUV for a 6’6″ fella like myself to drive. That being said, I think I would rather have a new Ford Explorer and save myself around $30 grand…that is unless my Powerball numbers hit one of these days!!!
    The Seiko…nice, if you like dive watches…I am not a fan of them, but I am sure there are lots of guys and gals that do.

    • Sevenmack

      Like you, I’m generally not a fan of watches, divers or GMTs, with external bezels. But that Seiko is gorgeous. The Infiniti definitely can accommodate tall folks. But I’d prefer the new Volvo XC90 or the new Explorer myself.

      • Larry Holmack

        The 2017 Ford Explorer is very nice! My wife and I are seriously considering it, since our friend can get us one from one of the company’s other dealerships. We will consider getting one once we move from our current house, as it is just too big for me to take care of anymore. My Rheumatoid Arthritis is getting worse, as it has spread to my right shoulder and my lower back. We are just going to move into an apartment or condo so I don’t have any maintenance work! It’s hell getting old!!!!

  • Yojimbo

    this feels more forced than a yezidi girl on her ISIL wedding night

  • Lincolnshire Poacher

    That GS is the perfect everyday grab-and-wear sport style watch.

  • commentator bob

    Nissan has updated the US 2017 Armada to be the same as the global Nissan Patrol and Infiniti QX80, so people can get this truck for a lot less money from Nissan with a less ‘unique’ front end.

  • DeepEye

    The car is just ugly. Looks like an old korean mercedes knock off.

  • Great watch. One of the best travel watches I’ve ever owned. Nice truck as well. But I’d prefer a vehicle from a manufacturer who’s name starts with a “B” and a model designation with an “M” included.

  • Word Merchant

    The forced and false juxtaposition of watch and car in these articles doesn’t work for me at all.
    I don’t see what either product in this article has in common with each other, apart from being deeply fugly.

  • cg

    Warthog ugly car. Nice handsome watch. I see no comparison.

  • Ulysses31

    That SUV is all kinds of ugly, all kinds. If you’re willing to pay luxury prices for that, you need your head examined.

  • I love the car and the watch too.. !

  • Gokart Mozart

    Ariel, are you sure the crown at 4 is not to celebrate the design feature of the cheap £50 mechanical Seikos?

  • bakoglumgit

    these car and watch articles remind me of walking the streets of germany and seeing the seemingly random ‘shoe repair/key copy’ shops for the first time.

  • Antjay

    Are you familiar with the expression “Jumping the shark” ?